No one to throw to? I’d say Demariyus Thomas and Reggie Wayne wouldn’t be a half bad 1-2 combo. I agree though that he probably doesn’t want to deal with the whole Tebow thing. But he is flying out to meet with them, so he must be interested to some extent.
As I said originally, it’s going to be the Cardinals, and they are going to be a scary team with him if he brings in Reggie Wayne as well.
My Saints hypothesis does seem to become more of a long-shot every day, but until Manning signs elsewhere or Brees signs the franchise tender, I’m not crossing them off the list. Would agree with the rest of “no” list though and would add Seattle based on recent stories.
My Saints hypothesis does seem to become more of a long-shot every day, but until Manning signs elsewhere or Brees signs the franchise tender, I’m not crossing them off the list. Would agree with the rest of “no” list though and would add Seattle based on recent stories.
I would have added SD and Dallas to the “no” list, but these two franchises have stagnated. An upgrade to the QB position isn’t a crazy idea anymore.
I wouldn’t be surprised if the New York football Giants miss the playoffs. That team is like a high maintenance chick: the highs are great but the lows are brutal.
I wouldn’t be surprised if the New York football Giants miss the playoffs. That team is like a high maintenance chick: the highs are great but the lows are brutal.
I would not consider the Giants to be a SB contender this coming season, and I am a fan. In the interest of full disclosure though, I didn’t consider them a contender last year either and picked them to lose in every playoff round.
I love how one of the primary reasons people like football is because of the violence but the NFL constantly tries to put on the appearance of trying to mitigate the hitting. Many defensive players are paid contract money to lay serious hits on people. The only thing that is different in the Saints situation is that they violated the salary cap, imo. Same with the rules to protect the quarterback, helmet to helmet hitting, etc. People watch it for the violence but the NFL has a PR campaign against violence in football. Watch soccer, hypocrites.
“Some people make shoes. Some people make houses. We make money and people are willing pay us a lot to make money for them.”
Disagree brain wash. People don’t watch it for the “violence”, they watch it for the physicallity. I like a clean hard hit as much as the next guy, but I don’t like helmet to helmet hitting or purposefully dangerous plays (helmet to knee comes to mind) whether I’m watching them or taking part in them back when I played. I think most true fans would strongly disagree with your statement. And the players for sure do not want to build a profession in a league that encourages unsafe practices that will shorten their career beyond it’s reasonable span. Both my brothers played college football and I played college ice hockey. As a hockey player especially, there is a lot of respect for guys delivering big hits (you can weather those surprisingly well) and a huge amount of disrespect for players that drop cheap hits (cross checking, boarding, elbows, etc) both by the fans and the players.If people want a pure blood sport, they can watch the greasy guys in tights aka UFC, but if they want a team sport built on athleticism outside of violent actions and if they want franchise players, then they’ll watch football and hockey. Last I checked based on total receipts, football and hockey were murdering the UFC fanbase. Nobody who really appreciates football wants to see a franchise talent like say Brady, Brees or Eli Manning have a career ended 10 years early by some pointless cheap hit.
Everytime I hear someone saying “people only watch racing for wrecks” it’s always some dork that doesn’t follow or appreciate racing and everytime someone says “people only watch football for violence” it’s usually the same.
The difference in the Saints situation is that the coaching staff knew of, and encouraged, the bounty pool. A large number of former players from around the league have indicated that bounty pools are not uncommon, but the coaching staff is kept out of the loop. Kind of like that scene from Independence Day when the President finds out that Area 51 actually does have alien bodies and artifacts and the CIA or military guy tells him he was kept in the dark to maintain plausible deniability.
Agree to disagree. Drawing from your last statement, I would say that most casual football fans like it more than, say, basketball because of the hitting. I also played hitting sports (hockey, some lacrosse) at a pretty decent level, although I have no idea how that qualifies me to say whether or not the NFL are hypocrites. What does qualify is attention to the facts. The NFL was fine with helmet to helmet well after it became apparent that (gasp) multiple concussions could lead to long term damage.
I’m from Philadelphia originally, so I remeber that helmet to helmet hit on DeSean Jackson by Dunta “nice spelling, brah” Robinson in 2010 and there were no repercussions for that. Why didn’t they ban helmet to helmet hitting earlier? Because people like the violence, period. Now that they perceive a PR issue as well as a potential legal issue down the line they are trying to figure out where the line is between violence and PR acceptability.
I don’t want to see Brady or any other player sidelined because somebody rolls into their knee. I’m just that the NFL is hypocritical.
“Some people make shoes. Some people make houses. We make money and people are willing pay us a lot to make money for them.”
Dunta Robinson was fined $50,000 for that hit. BTW, the no helmet-to-helment rule has been in place since the mid-90s and Goodell gave referees the power to eject players for a helmet-to-helmet hit in his 1st or 2nd year as commissioner.
Good call, pretty heft fine. I guess I was thinking of suspensions….which I don’t think we’ve seen yet. Basically that one weekend in 2010 when there were a bunch of egregious hits the NFL decided to begin enforcing the below rule, which Higg referred to. I guess who cares as long as players are protected, I just think it’s a little disingenuous to say its because of player safety when it was clearly about public image.
IEV, it makes sense for the casual fan. I like baseball and a complete game shutout is very exciting to me. But the casual fan wants to see ‘em hit dingers. Why do you think MLB ignored Sosa and McGwire’s steroid use until AFTER baseball had already experienced a renaissance?
“Using any part of a player’s helmet (including the top/crown and forehead/hairline parts) or facemask to butt, spear, or ram an opponent violently or unnecessarily; although such violent or unnecessary use of the helmet is impermissible against any opponent, game officials will give special attention in administering this rule to protect those players who are in virtually defenseless postures.”
“Some people make shoes. Some people make houses. We make money and people are willing pay us a lot to make money for them.”
Keep in mind, there’s basically no outrage from the fans over the bounties. It’s the NFL that’s throwing a fit over it. They’re so paranoid about their perception they felt they had to make an example of the Saints coaches.
People do watch football for the violence. Think of how the fans react to steroid use in the NFL. No one cares. We just want to see bigger, faster dudes knock the crap out of each other.
The NFL is just being careful this doesn’t all blow up one day and go the way of baseball.
Denver’s not going to happen. No one to throw to and you have to deal with that weird Tebow thing.
He’ll be a Chief by Monday.
No one to throw to? I’d say Demariyus Thomas and Reggie Wayne wouldn’t be a half bad 1-2 combo. I agree though that he probably doesn’t want to deal with the whole Tebow thing. But he is flying out to meet with them, so he must be interested to some extent.
As I said originally, it’s going to be the Cardinals, and they are going to be a scary team with him if he brings in Reggie Wayne as well.
Rumor has it that if Manning signs with Denver, Tebow will be traded to Jacksonville for a 2nd round pick.
2 team can be removed from the list.
1) Jets have signed Sanchez
2) Redskins traded up in the draft and are now guaranteed to draft either Luck or RG III.
We can also remove Pats, Packers, Giants, Saints, Steelers, Lions, Colts and Rams off the list.
That still leaves 22 teams that should at least contemplate adding the most highly prized free agent in NFL history.
Three 1st picks and a 2nd? Snyder almost sends his grandma and her dog.
My Saints hypothesis does seem to become more of a long-shot every day, but until Manning signs elsewhere or Brees signs the franchise tender, I’m not crossing them off the list. Would agree with the rest of “no” list though and would add Seattle based on recent stories.
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I would have added SD and Dallas to the “no” list, but these two franchises have stagnated. An upgrade to the QB position isn’t a crazy idea anymore.
Strange developments in the last few days.
Marshall traded to Bears
Wayne resigns with Colts
PTI announcing that the Titans are the frontrunners in the Manning sweepstakes
It’s Denver. Nice.
Now they have a 36 yr old quarterback clearly in decline coming off multiple neck surgeries yay.
Cities teem with evil and decay, let’s give it a good shake and see what falls out!!
I can’t believe Alex Smith has options.
Hard to believe that decent NFL QB’s like Jason Campbell and Orton didn’t try to get starting jobs in places like Seattle or Miami.
Cities teem with evil and decay, let’s give it a good shake and see what falls out!!
I guess the details will come out at some point, but why Denver over San Fran? I just don’t get it.
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^ The AFC has an easier path to the Super Bowl this season. Passing over GB, NO and NYG would be almost impossible.
I wouldn’t be surprised if the New York football Giants miss the playoffs. That team is like a high maintenance chick: the highs are great but the lows are brutal.
I would not consider the Giants to be a SB contender this coming season, and I am a fan. In the interest of full disclosure though, I didn’t consider them a contender last year either and picked them to lose in every playoff round.
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I shoulda traded on this and went denver at 70-1 to win the Super Bowl for $500. Down to 10-1 now…
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Tebow to the Jets. Sean Payton suspended for the whole season. What a crazy off-season.
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Another religious zealot leading Jets to disaster into New York city.
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Holy Ish! coach Payton has just been ass_rap’d.
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He got off easy. Michael Vick got 3 years? And those were just dogs.
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I love how one of the primary reasons people like football is because of the violence but the NFL constantly tries to put on the appearance of trying to mitigate the hitting. Many defensive players are paid contract money to lay serious hits on people. The only thing that is different in the Saints situation is that they violated the salary cap, imo. Same with the rules to protect the quarterback, helmet to helmet hitting, etc. People watch it for the violence but the NFL has a PR campaign against violence in football. Watch soccer, hypocrites.
“Some people make shoes. Some people make houses. We make money and people are willing pay us a lot to make money for them.”
Disagree brain wash. People don’t watch it for the “violence”, they watch it for the physicallity. I like a clean hard hit as much as the next guy, but I don’t like helmet to helmet hitting or purposefully dangerous plays (helmet to knee comes to mind) whether I’m watching them or taking part in them back when I played. I think most true fans would strongly disagree with your statement. And the players for sure do not want to build a profession in a league that encourages unsafe practices that will shorten their career beyond it’s reasonable span. Both my brothers played college football and I played college ice hockey. As a hockey player especially, there is a lot of respect for guys delivering big hits (you can weather those surprisingly well) and a huge amount of disrespect for players that drop cheap hits (cross checking, boarding, elbows, etc) both by the fans and the players.If people want a pure blood sport, they can watch the greasy guys in tights aka UFC, but if they want a team sport built on athleticism outside of violent actions and if they want franchise players, then they’ll watch football and hockey. Last I checked based on total receipts, football and hockey were murdering the UFC fanbase. Nobody who really appreciates football wants to see a franchise talent like say Brady, Brees or Eli Manning have a career ended 10 years early by some pointless cheap hit.
Everytime I hear someone saying “people only watch racing for wrecks” it’s always some dork that doesn’t follow or appreciate racing and everytime someone says “people only watch football for violence” it’s usually the same.
I used to smoke pot and go to class.
Sneak in ten minutes late with a bullsh*t excuse.
Slink down low at my desk.
Pray to god nobody asked me any questions.
I was the best teacher ever.
The difference in the Saints situation is that the coaching staff knew of, and encouraged, the bounty pool. A large number of former players from around the league have indicated that bounty pools are not uncommon, but the coaching staff is kept out of the loop. Kind of like that scene from Independence Day when the President finds out that Area 51 actually does have alien bodies and artifacts and the CIA or military guy tells him he was kept in the dark to maintain plausible deniability.
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Agree to disagree. Drawing from your last statement, I would say that most casual football fans like it more than, say, basketball because of the hitting. I also played hitting sports (hockey, some lacrosse) at a pretty decent level, although I have no idea how that qualifies me to say whether or not the NFL are hypocrites. What does qualify is attention to the facts. The NFL was fine with helmet to helmet well after it became apparent that (gasp) multiple concussions could lead to long term damage.
I’m from Philadelphia originally, so I remeber that helmet to helmet hit on DeSean Jackson by Dunta “nice spelling, brah” Robinson in 2010 and there were no repercussions for that. Why didn’t they ban helmet to helmet hitting earlier? Because people like the violence, period. Now that they perceive a PR issue as well as a potential legal issue down the line they are trying to figure out where the line is between violence and PR acceptability.
I don’t want to see Brady or any other player sidelined because somebody rolls into their knee. I’m just that the NFL is hypocritical.
“Some people make shoes. Some people make houses. We make money and people are willing pay us a lot to make money for them.”
Dunta Robinson was fined $50,000 for that hit. BTW, the no helmet-to-helment rule has been in place since the mid-90s and Goodell gave referees the power to eject players for a helmet-to-helmet hit in his 1st or 2nd year as commissioner.
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Watching football because of the big hits doesn’t make any sense. It’s like watching three hours of baseball because someone likes homers.
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Good call, pretty heft fine. I guess I was thinking of suspensions….which I don’t think we’ve seen yet. Basically that one weekend in 2010 when there were a bunch of egregious hits the NFL decided to begin enforcing the below rule, which Higg referred to. I guess who cares as long as players are protected, I just think it’s a little disingenuous to say its because of player safety when it was clearly about public image.
IEV, it makes sense for the casual fan. I like baseball and a complete game shutout is very exciting to me. But the casual fan wants to see ‘em hit dingers. Why do you think MLB ignored Sosa and McGwire’s steroid use until AFTER baseball had already experienced a renaissance?
“Using any part of a player’s helmet (including the top/crown and forehead/hairline parts) or facemask to butt, spear, or ram an opponent violently or unnecessarily; although such violent or unnecessary use of the helmet is impermissible against any opponent, game officials will give special attention in administering this rule to protect those players who are in virtually defenseless postures.”
“Some people make shoes. Some people make houses. We make money and people are willing pay us a lot to make money for them.”
Keep in mind, there’s basically no outrage from the fans over the bounties. It’s the NFL that’s throwing a fit over it. They’re so paranoid about their perception they felt they had to make an example of the Saints coaches.
People do watch football for the violence. Think of how the fans react to steroid use in the NFL. No one cares. We just want to see bigger, faster dudes knock the crap out of each other.
The NFL is just being careful this doesn’t all blow up one day and go the way of baseball.
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