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Just announced on ESPN: LeBron James to the Miami Heat

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Mobius Strip's picture

whats all the fuss about when my man KOBE is bringing me a three-peat next year, i just dont get it

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Mobius Striptease Wrote:
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> whats all the fuss about when my man KOBE is
> bringing me a three-peat next year, i just dont
> get it

Word.

Heat will suck (term used relatively). Bosh is overrated. Lakers have Gasol/Bynum and Odom. They match up well against them and Kobe’s a winner.

-Not a James fan any longer and may actually find himself rooting for the Celtics if they play the Heat

topher's picture

I do think the Heat will be contenders but they won’t be winning a championship next year. They have too many holes in their roster. There’s already rumors that Shaq may join them at the vet’s minimum.

I also don’t understand why Lebron is getting so much hate for leaving. He wants to win championships and to do that, he wants to join the best possible team. Is that reprehensible? No one cares anymore about Kobe around 03-04 when he was crying like a baby for better teammates, bashing Bynum on a “hidden” camera, calling out Kupchak, asking to be traded, etc. Lebron handled his transition much more smoothly in my opinion than crybaby Kobe.

I was a Lebron fan and will continue to be. I don’t think his legacy should be downgraded simply because he had a superstar teammate. Most players who have multiple rings had all-star teammates or superstar teammates.

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topher Wrote:
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> I do think the Heat will be contenders but they
> won’t be winning a championship next year. They
> have too many holes in their roster. There’s
> already rumors that Shaq may join them at the
> vet’s minimum.
>
> I also don’t understand why Lebron is getting so
> much hate for leaving. He wants to win
> championships and to do that, he wants to join the
> best possible team. Is that reprehensible? No one
> cares anymore about Kobe around 03-04 when he was
> crying like a baby for better teammates, bashing
> Bynum on a “hidden” camera, calling out Kupchak,
> asking to be traded, etc. Lebron handled his
> transition much more smoothly in my opinion than
> crybaby Kobe.
>
> I was a Lebron fan and will continue to be. I
> don’t think his legacy should be downgraded simply
> because he had a superstar teammate. Most players
> who have multiple rings had all-star teammates or
> superstar teammates.

A fair point - and I’m sure winning a championship will go a long way in making people forget about this.

The issue is not leaving Cleveland for a chance to win, but how he did it (i.e. didn’t notify the Cavs until a few minutes before the show, amongst other things).

Granted Kobe whined, but at least he made his intentions clear. Kobe said get me a better team or trade me. Lebron strung multiple cities along and was not upfront about how he handled his situation.

topher's picture

If an employer asks you where you’re going are you going to tell them? Maybe, maybe not. If you’re on an interview and they ask you your salary, most people try to delay/hide it. If you are interviewing for multiple jobs, do you tell one company that you like another company more so just forget it? He played his cards the way they’re supposed to be played.

It was in any sane person’s interest to at least hear the offers from all the teams was it not? What if the Clippers, who, in addition to the Knicks and Nets IMO NEVER had a chance, came up with some ridiculously good offer? You never know. So you should hear out all of the possible scenarios and not blabber your intentions.

Anyway, I can sorta see how people might be irritated by his handling of the situation, but I also think most people are saying that because they’re not in Lebron’s shoes. If you were in that same situation, maybe you would’ve done the same.

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LPoulin133 Wrote:
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> The issue is not leaving Cleveland for a chance to
> win, but how he did it (i.e. didn’t notify the
> Cavs until a few minutes before the show, amongst
> other things).

His decision had been pretty obvious about 3 days ahead of time. The season just ended too, it’s not like he notified the Cavs 3 days before the season started.

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> Pretty > Top 5 MBA > CFA > Avg MBA > Born middle
> class > Born lower

LPoulin133's picture

Topher - You’re being rhetorical, but his situation is different than someone gainfully employeed without a set contract or time period defining the period of employment. Everyone knew he was a free agent, it’s not like looking for another team to play on would get him fired from the Cavs. Nonetheless, there are work situations that are similar to Lebron’s - they still do not justify the actions.

AM - Kind of not the point - but to examine that for a minute, you think it’s cool that the Cavs hear from potentially uncredible outside sources that their franchise player is leaving?

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LPoulin133 Wrote:
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> AM - Kind of not the point - but to examine that
> for a minute, you think it’s cool that the Cavs
> hear from potentially uncredible outside sources
> that their franchise player is leaving?

It’s not like they thought he would be staying, just look at the owners response. It dropped like 10 minutes after Lebron made his announcement. He obviously wrote that before he “knew.”

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ChickenTikka Wrote:
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> Being Born Wealthy > Being Jewish or WASPY > Born
> Pretty > Top 5 MBA > CFA > Avg MBA > Born middle
> class > Born lower

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You have to give him some credit, the easy thing would have been to take the extra $30M and stay in Cleveland hoping to bring home the ring

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ASSet_MANagement Wrote:
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> LPoulin133 Wrote:
> ————————————————–
> —–
> > AM - Kind of not the point - but to examine
> that
> > for a minute, you think it’s cool that the Cavs
> > hear from potentially uncredible outside
> sources
> > that their franchise player is leaving?
>
> It’s not like they thought he would be staying,
> just look at the owners response. It dropped like
> 10 minutes after Lebron made his announcement. He
> obviously wrote that before he “knew.”

Ok - so because they knew he was screwing them over that justifies his actions? That makes sense.

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artvandalay Wrote:
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> You have to give him some credit, the easy thing
> would have been to take the extra $30M and stay in
> Cleveland hoping to bring home the ring

Seems to me the easy thing to do was to go to the team stacked with two other superstars. The bigger challenge would be to be the clear cut leader and lead a team to a championship. I don’t think for even a minute that the $$ (speaking only of his base salary for playing basketball) was a factor in this decision.

rhyme's picture

Bottom line, the classy thing to do is call the owner and tell him whats happening before he goes on live TV and makes a spectacle of it.

Whether or not you want to stay, he’s lived there is entire life, and became an icon while in Cleveland. If you want to leave, great, but at least have the courtesy to tell them.

That being said, I also thing that the owner will regret his open letter, and it’s ridiculous to think that the Cavs will win a championship before the Heat given their roster / payroll.

pimpineasy's picture

look a lot of people are disappointed because he was thought to be the heir to MJ based on competitiveness, desire to win and making teammates better while he did do that for 3 plus seasons the admission that he feels he needs to join WADE’s team to win a championshipo doesnt mesh with neither his King moniker nor his aspiration to be admired as a mj/kobe type player ………..

to sum it up he felt he needed to join a suspersars team to win a championship .

Hope this helps

djpetway's picture

The easy thing to do was to stay in cleveland, make 30 more million and he didn’t have to ever win. That doesn’t mean he wouldn’t ever win but he would always be comfortable there and the team would be happy just to be relevant. Of course how long before the Fans were ready to run him out of town with a couple of more second round exits.

It is much harder to do this and know that people are going to hate you and now you HAVE to win.

Also, people always say Athletes just take the money, well he didn’t take the money he wanted to win, and now I hear people say well he already has the money, if that’s the case and money doesn’t matter anymore and he doesn’t care about a championship why not retire. The guy is a competititor and is willing to sacrifice personal glory for the right to be called a champion.

started off hustlin ended up ballin

pimpineasy's picture

basically it affronts our sense of fairness ……lebron is a suprememly tslented player why did hje feel it necessary to join up with 2 other superstars in order to compete for a champoionship………….NY, chicago or even cleveland he could use hhis physical girfts/leadership skills to lead a team to a championship …………….thats what separate the good from the greats ………………..is he saying that he is unable to do so or is he saying that he is increasing his chances ……now iff i do the same in nba 2k playing with lebron jordan kobe etc cuz i wanna win u wouldnt think very highly of me would you. i would win but your level of admiration wouldnt be as great ……………….nothing is wrong with what he did but for someone who considers himself king james this is totally a blow to his image

Hope this helps

ASSet_MANagement's picture

LPoulin133 Wrote:
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> ASSet_MANagement Wrote:
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> —–
> > LPoulin133 Wrote:
> >
> ————————————————–
>
> > —–
> > > AM - Kind of not the point - but to examine
> > that
> > > for a minute, you think it’s cool that the
> Cavs
> > > hear from potentially uncredible outside
> > sources
> > > that their franchise player is leaving?
> >
> > It’s not like they thought he would be staying,
> > just look at the owners response. It dropped
> like
> > 10 minutes after Lebron made his announcement.
> He
> > obviously wrote that before he “knew.”
>
> Ok - so because they knew he was screwing them
> over that justifies his actions? That makes
> sense.

If by “screwing over” you mean making his own decisions, then yes. Makes perfect sense. Who is he screwing over? He essentially saved the team a ton of money. He would’ve been screwing himself over had he stayed w/ CC b/c they would be plowing all their cash into Lebron and not have the ability to realistically recruit talent to support him.

Lebron couldn’t even recruit Bosch to Cleveland.

He didnt screw anyone over, he made a decision that was his to make.

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ChickenTikka Wrote:
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> Being Born Wealthy > Being Jewish or WASPY > Born
> Pretty > Top 5 MBA > CFA > Avg MBA > Born middle
> class > Born lower

LPoulin133's picture

AM - You’re right, he handled this well.

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