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jbaldyga's picture

True, I’ve badmouthed people on AF about buying egregiously expensive watches in the past. but since then I caught the bug and am in the market for a nice entry level watch. Guilty. I’m looking for an automatic, chronograph, tachymeter, all that good stuff for ~$1K. Any experts out there have any suggestions?

A couple I’ve come across that I like:

Hamilton X-mach–

http://www.amazon.com/Hamilton-H76626535-Khaki-Black-Chronograph/dp/B002...

Lord Hamilton–

http://www.amazon.com/Hamilton-H32816331-Black-Chronograph-Watch/dp/B004...

Accutron (Bulova)–

http://www.amazon.com/Accutron-26C02-Automatic-Chronograph-Leather/dp/B0...

Thoughts/Suggestions?

Palantir's picture

I never got this, what do fancy mechanical watches do that normal quartz watches can’t?

Not all men were meant to dance with dragons.

ohai's picture

They heighten your self esteem and help project to others that you are successful.

“Be aware of this 40 year old men in our country.They suffer from mid life crisis and are always trying to be in the good books of young girls.” -Rahul Roy

numi's picture

Hamilton watches are nice; the first one you’ve shown is a bit too busy for my liking, but the second one is OK. With that said, if that’s the appearance you’re going for and you’re willing to spend $1,000, why not just go for a good-condition second-hand Omega or Longines? The only challenge is that you have to know what you’re looking for if you’re going to buy off eBay or TimeZone or whatever, but I’d recommend it. My every-day watch is an Omega Speedmaster that was about five years old when I got it, but there was paperwork showing when it was bought as well as when it was maintained. Paid less than $1,000 for it and still get complimented on it every so often. However, most of the time people just stare instead of saying anything, perhaps because they don’t want to come across as too materialistic (when actually I think their noticing would say something of their good tastes).

Cheers
Numi

Reggie's picture

I’m going to concur with your first sentence. I think it’s pretty ridiculous to put $1,000 on your wrist when you can buy a real decent watch for $300. I could think of a thousand other things to do with that extra $700.

This of course doesn’t apply for those who literally have so much money they don’t know what to do with it. Unless you fall into that category you might soon regret dumping that extra $700 into a watch. I’m not trying to be an a$$ it’s just my two cents.

mar350's picture

numi Wrote:
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> The only challenge
> is that you have to know what you’re looking for
> if you’re going to buy off eBay or TimeZone or
> whatever, but I’d recommend it.

agreed - eBay is the shizznit. like Numi said, the hard part is finding something you want that can wear daily (work, bars, dates, etc.)

i’ve suggeted overstock.com in the past, also

numi's picture

I think that having a nice watch is one of the most important ways that a man can convey that they care presentation. We don’t have all the fancy-schmancies that women have to wear; I find that good taste is more subtly communicated for men at least in the industry that we’re in. There aren’t too many ways to do that – you have primarily suit, ties, and watch.

If you’re in a client-facing role or frequently engage in networking activities, I think it’s helpful to own a good watch – it’s something you can be proud to own for years. I do have a watch that’s more expensive than my Omega Speedmaster – it’s an IWC Automatic Pilot from the 1990’s that I also bought second-hand. I can’t say that I regret owning it because it’s a nice piece, but that’s one where I feel like I have a lot more money tied up in and that I don’t actually wear every day. All I’m saying is that around the $1,000 mark, you can get lots of watches that can be worn everyday and signal something about your tastes, status, etc.

I recognize that this may sound a bit superficial, but when you meet someone for the first time and they know nothing about you, what else will they notice aside from your appearance (and confidence)? Thus, I think mar350 is doing a reasonable thing.

Palantir's picture

I don’t get it, wouldn’t the other person need to look really closely at the brand name on the watch to decide whether it is a “nice” watch and deem you to have good taste?

These two watches look the same to me apart from brand name.

http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_DV_Yt2-iOSI/SsR3y3vO5OI/AAAAAAAABeU/LpfWtXPPOz...

http://t3.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:EDbfA_EzKHIXdM:http://www.kaddoz.com/...

Not all men were meant to dance with dragons.

Inner Evil Voice's picture

^Oh they look, trust me. As a long time Breitling and Omega owner I can confirm that.

ohai's picture

Also, if you know you have a 16 inch p enis, you will walk and talk a different way.

Edit: I guess if your dick was really that large, you would literally walk differently. I was referring to confidence, however. If the only thing that mattered in this situation was presentation, then someone would be equally happy with a Chinatown Rolex (Lolex?) as they would be with the real thing.

“Be aware of this 40 year old men in our country.They suffer from mid life crisis and are always trying to be in the good books of young girls.” -Rahul Roy

NYCGorilla's picture

i dont agree with any of the above. I love my Vin Diesel watch for $105

jcole21's picture

Get a white fossil watch with a HUGE beze.

No quote needed

numi's picture

Palantir Wrote:
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> I don’t get it, wouldn’t the other person need to
> look really closely at the brand name on the watch
> to decide whether it is a “nice” watch and deem
> you to have good taste?
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> These two watches look the same to me apart from
> brand name.
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> http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_DV_Yt2-iOSI/SsR3y3vO5OI/
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> http://t3.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:EDbfA_EzKHIXdM:
> http://www.kaddoz.com/items/3272/0_defaultImage.jp
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To me, the first one looks like a pretty recent Speedmaster which is quite nice. The second one is pretty casual, a bit too “sporty” for me and something I wouldn’t wear but Fossil is an OK watch for people that don’t want to spend much and want decent value.

jbaldyga's picture

couple things:

1) for me buying a nice watch is a reward for a great year at my job. something i can look at and be reminded of the year when i made a big leap at my company. I think that’s a valid reason for spending a little extra money.

2) there’s nothing magic about the price, just happens to be the range on the watches i’ve liked. found a nice Victorinox for around $400.

3) i work w/ JV partners who make more money than god and it’s a little embarrasing when i go out to meet them w/ my crappy seiko on while they’re flashing a blancpain. Numi, your point is well taken. Although I’m conscious of the “who the f*k does this guy think he is” factor if you wear a watch that’s clearly out of your affordability range.

Anyway, I’m all for value, so if you have good quality cheaper suggestions, i’m all ears. Numi, good info, thx.

mar350's picture

jbaldyga Wrote:
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> Although I’m conscious of the “who the f*k
> does this guy think he is” factor if you wear a
> watch that’s clearly out of your affordability
> range.
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> Anyway, I’m all for value, so if you have good
> quality cheaper suggestions, i’m all ears. Numi,
> good info, thx.

if you really want to hit that nail go get a timex ironman and start crushing marathons in VFFs.

bromion's picture

jbaldyga Wrote:
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> 3) i work w/ JV partners who make more money than
> god and it’s a little embarrasing when i go out to
> meet them w/ my crappy seiko on while they’re
> flashing a blancpain. Numi, your point is well
> taken. Although I’m conscious of the “who the f*k
> does this guy think he is” factor if you wear a
> watch that’s clearly out of your affordability
> range.

I can relate to that as I had similar experience when I started my career. I didn’t want to spend a fortune on a watch, but I wanted something that would pass in big league meeetings as well as be suitable for everyday wear. I ended up going with something similar to the watch in the link below (not the exact same model but it’s essentially the same). I got it for about $300 on Overstock (new) vs. the $800 here. The nice thing about Movado is that a lot of people know the brand and it is considered respectable without being pretentious – I get a lot of compliments on my watch in and outside of the business world.

http://www.movado.com/movado-collections/all-collections/luno-sport/luno...

“I lost my wife to a margin call. Wives get mad when you come home and say, ‘Sweetheart, I lost the house today.’” - Dennis Gartman on trading mistakes

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bromion Wrote:
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>The nice thing about Movado is
> that a lot of people know the brand and it is
> considered respectable without being pretentious
> – I get a lot of compliments on my watch in and
> outside of the business world.
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> http://www.movado.com/movado-collections/all-colle
> ctions/luno-sport/luno-sport-0606379.html

Agree. I bought a Movado chronograph 11 or 12 years ago and it has been my everyday watch ever since. I can’t count the number of compliments I received on the watch. I think the current model is the Series 800. My only complaint is that the warranty is voided if anyone other than a Movado certified shop changes the battery. Even Movado stores won’t change it, they send it back to the factory.

http://www.movado.com/movado-collections/all-collections/series-800-sub-...

My job is to reconcile cognitive dissonance.

ohai's picture

That one looks pretty good. My only complaint about Movado is that some of their watches don’t have marks to show you where the numbers are. Drives me crazy!

“Be aware of this 40 year old men in our country.They suffer from mid life crisis and are always trying to be in the good books of young girls.” -Rahul Roy

higgmond's picture

ohai Wrote:
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> That one looks pretty good. My only complaint
> about Movado is that some of their watches don’t
> have marks to show you where the numbers are.
> Drives me crazy!

That’s Movado’s signature look. When I bought my chrono, it was pretty hard to find another Movado model that had numbers on it.

My job is to reconcile cognitive dissonance.

jbaldyga's picture

ohai Wrote:
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> That one looks pretty good. My only complaint
> about Movado is that some of their watches don’t
> have marks to show you where the numbers are.
> Drives me crazy!

agree.

had a bunch of meetings this week and kept catching myself trying to figure out what watch everyone is wearing. never noticed it before, but everyone has a nice watch. apparantly it’s ‘a thing’.

numi's picture
Valores's picture

I liked Omega watch, and the last one is really nice.
Why not just quartz Rolex?

topher's picture

Valores Wrote:
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> I liked Omega watch, and the last one is really
> nice.
> Why not just quartz Rolex?

I’m not entirely sure on this but I don’t think Rolex makes quartz. Also, Rolex pushes up the price to another level. A decent submariner will easily triple (probably more) the original price point the OP had in mind.

ohai's picture

I guess some people think Rolexes are too mainstream, so they want something different. There’s also a non-trivial price difference between Rolex and some of the brands mentioned here.

Anyway, true BSDs own this watch:

http://www.amazon.com/Zenith-96-0529-4035-Tourbillon-Titanium-Chronograp...

As some of the customer reviews mention:

“this watch is more awesome than Chuck Norris riding Godzilla”

“As I… viewed the watch for the very first time, I hear the faint sound of angels singing. It was the closest thing to an out of body experience.”

“my life has been getting better and better. I hooked up with my ginger best friend’s ginger sister, Oprah is retiring, and I just found out that Morgan Freeman is my real Dad.”

“This is the watch Jesus Christ would have worn if Christians believed in time”

“Be aware of this 40 year old men in our country.They suffer from mid life crisis and are always trying to be in the good books of young girls.” -Rahul Roy

mar350's picture

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its on sale! i want 2

Inner Evil Voice's picture

I’ve considered a Rolex but they’re not my style. Besides I can’t come up with a reasonable argument to add another watch to my rotation of three. Watches however have a serious fan base, and it’s not uncommon to find dudes who have ten or more Omegas @ $2K-6K each, for instance.

Of the two guys running the show in my job, one has as $30K-50K+ Breguet and the other one uses nothing, so it’s a personal preference.

murders&executions's picture

I’ve shared my general rule in life that less is more on several occasions. The trend of cheap watches that have 80 different things on the dial drives me absolutely nuts. If you are spending less than $5,000 on a watch, it should only give you the time, date, and possibly the day. If you want a watch with a chronograph, altimeter, barometer, and thermometer, that goes by the model name “pilot”, “aviator”, or “mariner”, or any other implication that people have worn it on the moon or at the bottom of the ocean or on a Formula 1 racetrack, it better cost more than $5,000.

This is of course in regards to purely decorative watches worn in the office or while going out. I have a watch with some of those functionalities that I wear while skiing. I also have a watch with some of those functionalities that I wear while running marathons.

Cheap watches with a ton of crap on them look cheap.

If you are going to spend a grand on a watch, go with something classy.

numi's picture

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my god, the comments on this watch are epic…niiiice

Valores's picture

I saw the watch and thought “too sporty”, and then I saw the price and changed my mind.

I liked the comment that someone bought two watches to get an Amazon gift certificate of 100 dollars. And the other comment that it’s a great deal, and on 58K saved you can buy a car and go to Disneyland.

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thommo77's picture

What about the Rafa Nadal watch. A little bit out of my price range at $525,000, but it looks pretty good.

http://www.watchsource.eu/richard-mille/richard-mille-rafael-nadal-rm-02...

comp_sci_kid's picture

Valores Wrote:
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> I saw the watch and thought “too sporty”, and then
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> deal, and on 58K saved you can buy a car and go to
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EPIC!

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