CA Prison Doc, No CFA, Earns $770k/Yr.

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AlphaSeeker's picture

California cried for their budget problem for years now. Yet its system and bureaucracy paid so much to this doc who hasn’t seen a patient for 5 years.

Don’t you think he should be let go, or at least making something like $13/hr (as Mr. Javier Toro in another post) for the mail room type of work he does?

Thoughts?

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ABC News
July 13, 2011

The highest-paid state employee in California last
year, earning $777,423, is a prison doctor who isn’t
allowed to see patients, state officials said.

Dr. Jeffrey Rohlfing, 65, has successfully appealed
attempts by the receiver who oversees California’s
prison health-care system to dismiss him and is
working in the medical records office at High Desert
State Prison in Susanville, said Nancy Kincaid, a
spokeswoman for the receiver, J. Clark Kelso.

He hasn’t seen patients since 2005 and has a history
of mental illness, she said.

Rohlfing earned the standard salary for doctors in the
prison health-care system last year, $235,740,
Kincaid said. He also got two years’ back pay after a
November 2009 ruling upholding an earlier decision
that the state had to hire him back.

“We had no choice. Clark Kelso did not want to have
this doctor on staff, but was ordered to take him
back,” she said.

A lawyer for Rohlfing could not immediately be
reached for comment.

Jacob Roper, a spokesman for State Controller John
Chiang, confirmed that Rohlfing was California’s
highest-paid employee last year. Second on the list
was another prison doctor, Dr. Fong Lai, who earned
$736,000, he said.

Rohlfing was placed on probation for five years in
1996, according to Medical Board of California
records, because of “bizarre, irrational and delusional
communications” with the staff of Valley Children’s
Hospital in Fresno, where he then worked.

In July that year, he appeared at the hospital
“disheveled…agitated” and strongly smelling of
alcohol and accosted a staff member, who called
police, according to the board records. After a car
chase with police, cops placed him in psychiatric
hold. Two weeks later, he was again placed in
psychiatric hold.

Despite his history, Rohling was hired as a prison
doctor in 2003, Kincaid said.
Rohlfing had originally been put on paid leave in
2005 after failing to send two patients with chest
pains to emergency rooms despite a history of heart
trouble, she said. His supervisor found that in both
cases the care had been “substandard,” according to a
report in the Los Angeles Times.

His clinical privileges were revoked and he was fired
in 2007. But he won his appeal to the State Personnel
Board in 2008 for being terminated, Kincaid said. The
state appealed but the ruling was upheld. Health
officials, who still didn’t have confidence in Rohlfing,
voted to continue the revocation of Rohlfing’s clinical
privileges, Kincaid said.

He is one of six doctors at the prison, which has
4,275 inmates, she said, and has attended a skills
evaluation program at the University of California at
San Diego.

Penny-wenny's picture

^ that is absolutely ridiculous!! it actually rivals the insanity of the Greek state!

thommo77's picture

A prison doc has no CFA - shocker

AlphaSeeker's picture

Won’t this case remind you what Reagen said?

“…government is not the solution to our problem. Government is the problem…”

LBriscoe's picture

AlphaSeeker Wrote:
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> Won’t this case remind you what Reagen said?
>
> “…government is not the solution to our problem.
> Government is the problem…”

^^^^

Uninformed people who believe simplistic, black/white, bumper sticker slogans like this are what got us into our current debt mess.

Penny-wenny's picture

LBriscoe Wrote:
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> AlphaSeeker Wrote:
> ————————————————–
> —–
> > Won’t this case remind you what Reagen said?
> >
> > “…government is not the solution to our
> problem.
> > Government is the problem…”
>
>
> ^^^^
>
> Uninformed people who believe simplistic,
> black/white, bumper sticker slogans like this are
> what got us into our current debt mess.

+1

mo34's picture

LBriscoe Wrote:
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> AlphaSeeker Wrote:
> ————————————————–
> —–
> > Won’t this case remind you what Reagen said?
> >
> > “…government is not the solution to our
> problem.
> > Government is the problem…”
>
>
> ^^^^
>
> Uninformed people who believe simplistic,
> black/white, bumper sticker slogans like this are
> what got us into our current debt mess.

Forget the slogans. Do you think this guy should be pocketing 770K per year for working the mail room ? It’s my money paying for this f**k !!

Did you read how a majority of doctors hired by the State had a bad record PRIOR to being hired? off-course, where else can they find a job. It’s free money as far as they’re concerned.

AlphaSeeker's picture

^^

Ha! supposedly informed people’s best action so far is firing cheap shots…

Banters aside, what do you you make of this situaiton? state government is forced to hire someone, had to find some job for him/her some mail room type of work to do at a base of $235k a year?

If government is not the problem. What is?

pimpineasy's picture

770K seems fair to me…………….back to work you filthy unwashed peasants

Hope this helps

LBriscoe's picture

AlphaSeeker Wrote:
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> ^^
>
> Ha! supposedly informed people’s best action so
> far is firing cheap shots…
>
> Banters aside, what do you you make of this
> situaiton? state government is forced to hire
> someone, had to find some job for him/her some
> mail room type of work to do at a base of $235k a
> year?
>
> If government is not the problem. What is?

I think he is grossly overpaid and, yes, government, in general, is inefficient as compared to the private sector (that’s not to say I couldn’t pull the same anecdotal evidence for any business/industry).

I think gov’t needs to be reformed (constantly) not blamed for all of our problems. It doesn’t even make sense to blame gov’t for economic problems as without it the economy would collapse.

AlphaSeeker's picture

^
Now we are talking…

Certainly government plays a role in providing public goods, you recall your earlier Macro Econ days. But as you stated government is in gernal inefficient…

What do you do when you have a must have party of the society that’s in general ineffecient? You limit the size and function of it as much as possible…

Agree, right? regardless if we are washed or unwashed; filthy or clean, peasants or customer service rep making $13/hr.

BTW, you are a woman, right?

brain_wash_your_face's picture

The problems with government stated above are problems for most large organizations. I used to work for a bank than employed over a quarter million people. There were certainly people making hundreds of thousands of dollars and doing practically nothing in that organization…should have known to short.

If you want to get really fired up, look at what’s going on with the CA university system…administrative overhead is literally destroying a once great asset to the state.

It was me.  I acted alone.  It was meticulously planned.  I let the dogs out.

Penny-wenny's picture

the government should be lean, flexible and at the service of the society and the market, it should be forced to espouse the principles of efficiency and above all, social justice which it should serve. however as a concept it has a very important raison d etre as far as i’m concerned and that is democracy. so yeah, it definitely should be there, that it is plagued with errors is a call for reform and more responsible men/women imbued with the right principles to embody it and take it to to the next stage.

brain_wash_your_face's picture

I really think a big problem is the deterioration of any sense of honor or duty in public service. It seems that most people on here believe that government should be run better, but everyone thinks of politicians as slimy yes-people. Even locally, there are few politicians who I hold in esteem. As a matter of fact, most of the local politicians I know are vastly underqualified for the post (IMO). No smart person wants to work their way up in politics making sh!t when they can get a private sector job and clean up (without a referendum on their position every 4 or 6 years).

It was me.  I acted alone.  It was meticulously planned.  I let the dogs out.

BValGuy's picture

brain_wash_your_face Wrote:
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> The problems with government stated above are
> problems for most large organizations. I used to
> work for a bank than employed over a quarter
> million people. There were certainly people
> making hundreds of thousands of dollars and doing
> practically nothing in that organization…should
> have known to short.
>

The big distinction btw the corporate world and governments is the source of revenue. Large organizations are able to pay bloated staffs b/c their customers use their services/products. Governments, on the other hand, don’t have consumers to rely on, they only have tax payers that have no choice but to cough it up.

NakedPuts's picture

I know about this one money manager who took in like 50B but it was all a ponzi scheme and everyone lost everything I guess we should shut down the money management industry because it’s completely corrupt and incapable of doing any good.

higgmond's picture

He earns $235k per year, not $770k. The $770 was just last year because it included back pay. Not that $235k per year is okay for an employee who is no longer qualified to perform his job, but let’s get the facts straight.

My job is to reconcile cognitive dissonance.

LBriscoe's picture

That’s par for the course for the tea partiers. I love how they complain about these huge bloated salaries of public union workers but when you look into it a little further it turns out they’re citing their last year’s salary which includes back pay for sick days or unused vacation time. Now guys like Chris Christie want to take that away, which is nice, especially for the guy who worked his entire career without taking a sick day.

AlphaSeeker's picture

Look at my 3rd post… The $235k/year reference is there.

This doc is mentally challenged who hasn’t seen a patient for 5 yrs and who is actually doing mail room work. Mailrom employees are generally paid in the 5-digits. Or $13/hour.

How informed or washed a peasant are you if you even consider $235k a year is fine here…?

mo34's picture

LBriscoe Wrote:
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> That’s par for the course for the tea partiers. I
> love how they complain about these huge bloated
> salaries of public union workers but when you look
> into it a little further it turns out they’re
> citing their last year’s salary which includes
> back pay for sick days or unused vacation time.
> Now guys like Chris Christie want to take that
> away, which is nice, especially for the guy who
> worked his entire career without taking a sick
> day.

Regarding the sick days issue, in the private sector there is a limit on how much vacation days you can roll-over from year to year, why don’t they apply a similar rule in the public sector ? I’ve heard of people retiring with an extra 500K in vacation time here in CA. ( Prison psychiatric - now why would a guy like this be allowed to keep rolling over his vacation days year after year ?)

AlphaSeeker's picture

NakedPuts Wrote:
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> I know about this one money manager who took in
> like 50B but it was all a ponzi scheme and
> everyone lost everything I guess we should shut
> down the money management industry because it’s
> completely corrupt and incapable of doing any
> good.

Great example. Naked.

In Madoff’s case, the government (SEC) completely screwed up!

The Ponzi scheme came to a point that, based on harry markopolos’ continous tips, all SEC needed to do is to check the trading records of Madoff. Madoff even said it himself that he is toast, at that point.

You know what, SEC didn’t… Madoff was able to carry on for another 2-3 years.

You tell me if govenment is the solution or the problem here… ??

LBriscoe's picture

mo34 Wrote:
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> LBriscoe Wrote:
> ————————————————–
> —–
> > That’s par for the course for the tea partiers.
> I
> > love how they complain about these huge bloated
> > salaries of public union workers but when you
> look
> > into it a little further it turns out they’re
> > citing their last year’s salary which includes
> > back pay for sick days or unused vacation time.
>
> > Now guys like Chris Christie want to take that
> > away, which is nice, especially for the guy who
> > worked his entire career without taking a sick
> > day.
>
>
> Regarding the sick days issue, in the private
> sector there is a limit on how much vacation days
> you can roll-over from year to year, why don’t
> they apply a similar rule in the public sector ?
> I’ve heard of people retiring with an extra 500K
> in vacation time here in CA. ( Prison psychiatric
> - now why would a guy like this be allowed to keep
> rolling over his vacation days year after year ?)

Agreed, and for the most part that is starting to happen in the public sector (it’s relatively new in the private sector), but you can’t change the rules at the end of the game. Also, the 500k number may grab headlines, but it doesn’t take into account the FV of all of the years the employer didn’t have to pay someone else to work on the days the employer didn’t.

I don’t think it’s a great policy to allow employers to keep vacation or sick time as a mini saving account, but when you pour into the numbers it really make a difference? It’s essentially paying someone overtime without time and a half (although in most of these situations the employer gets his final year salary for the time off and not the rate he was making for the individual days).

And of course I don’t consider 235k a year for a mentally challenged individual okay, but I also believe in strong laws that protect people. I’m sure this individual is free loading off of some protection that was given to workers who really need it. Does this suck, yes; are there drains on the system, of course; but I rather this than the alternative.

And it doesn’t matter how many overweight senior citizens with warn out tight-fitting tee shirts with a US flag, an eagle, some sort of gun, and sign that says get your government off my medicare tell me otherwise, I’m not changing my mind.

higgmond's picture

LBriscoe Wrote:
——————————————————-
> That’s par for the course for the tea partiers. I
> love how they complain about these huge bloated
> salaries of public union workers but when you look
> into it a little further it turns out they’re
> citing their last year’s salary which includes
> back pay for sick days or unused vacation time.
> Now guys like Chris Christie want to take that
> away, which is nice, especially for the guy who
> worked his entire career without taking a sick
> day.

Sick days are there to protect you IN THE EVENT THAT YOU ARE SICK. They are not intended to be a means of additional compensation if you don’t use them. I have no problem paying public employees for unused vacation time (up to a reasonable limit), but paying for unused sick time is a joke. One former school superintendent retired without ever having taken a sick day despite having had open heart surgery a few years before he retired. When he was asked about it, he said he worked from his hospital bed.

My job is to reconcile cognitive dissonance.

NakedPuts's picture

AlphaSeeker Wrote:
——————————————————-
> NakedPuts Wrote:
> ————————————————–
> —–
> > I know about this one money manager who took in
> > like 50B but it was all a ponzi scheme and
> > everyone lost everything I guess we should shut
> > down the money management industry because it’s
> > completely corrupt and incapable of doing any
> > good.
>
> Great example. Naked.
>
> In Madoff’s case, the government (SEC) completely
> screwed up!
>
> The Ponzi scheme came to a point that, based on
> harry markopolos’ continous tips, all SEC needed
> to do is to check the trading records of Madoff.
> Madoff even said it himself that he is toast, at
> that point.
>
> You know what, SEC didn’t… Madoff was able to
> carry on for another 2-3 years.
>
> You tell me if govenment is the solution or the
> problem here… ??

You need the SEC to hold your hand for you? The SEC should be eliminated. Private enterprise will fill the void. People who lost money with Madoff have only themselves to blame for being irresponsible idiots.

mo34's picture

higgmond Wrote:
——————————————————-
> LBriscoe Wrote:
> ————————————————–
> —–
> > That’s par for the course for the tea partiers.
> I
> > love how they complain about these huge bloated
> > salaries of public union workers but when you
> look
> > into it a little further it turns out they’re
> > citing their last year’s salary which includes
> > back pay for sick days or unused vacation time.
>
> > Now guys like Chris Christie want to take that
> > away, which is nice, especially for the guy who
> > worked his entire career without taking a sick
> > day.
>
> Sick days are there to protect you IN THE EVENT
> THAT YOU ARE SICK. They are not intended to be a
> means of additional compensation if you don’t use
> them. I have no problem paying public employees
> for unused vacation time (up to a reasonable
> limit), but paying for unused sick time is a joke.
> One former school superintendent retired without
> ever having taken a sick day despite having had
> open heart surgery a few years before he retired.
> When he was asked about it, he said he worked from
> his hospital bed.

The “fraud” part IMO is that they cash them at the highest pay rate they reach just before retiring. The logic is this is free-money and there is no problem taking what we can.

AlphaSeeker's picture

NakedPuts Wrote:

> You need the SEC to hold your hand for you? The
> SEC should be eliminated. Private enterprise will
> fill the void. People who lost money with Madoff
> have only themselves to blame for being
> irresponsible idiots.

Exactly, people should be resposonsible with their own decisions and actions. The govenment, other than resonsible a small # of public goods, should stay out of it.

higgmond's picture

mo34 Wrote:
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>
> The “fraud” part IMO is that they cash them at the
> highest pay rate they reach just before retiring.
> The logic is this is free-money and there is no
> problem taking what we can.

Excellent point mo. I wasn’t sure what rate they were compensated at. So employee X gets paid $650 a day for unused sick days he “earned” when he was $120 a day. Nice.

My job is to reconcile cognitive dissonance.

magicskyfairy's picture

good for this guy, he found a way to make a ton of money

mar350's picture

NakedPuts Wrote:
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> AlphaSeeker Wrote:
> ————————————————–
> —–
> > NakedPuts Wrote:
> >
> ————————————————–
>
> > —–
>
> You need the SEC to hold your hand for you? The
> SEC should be eliminated. Private enterprise will
> fill the void. People who lost money with Madoff
> have only themselves to blame for being
> irresponsible idiots.

where’s Dog the Bounty Hunter when you need him.

i smell sequel

marcus phoenix's picture

The best way to reduce the size of govt. is to go after defense spending which should be cut by at least 50 percent or more, by a combination of closing overseas bases, troop withdrawal, eliminating contracts and programs (rife with fraud and corruption) and reducing some of the largesse at the top. This should be combined with cuts in entitlement programs.

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magicskyfairy's picture

^ That’s one problem dealt with, now there are only about 1000 more to go

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