So my coworker and I were just talking about this and couldn’t really reach a consensus. What would you say are the best MBA programs in Canada? We agreed that Ivey and Queens were up there, and he wants to include UBC but I’m a little hesitant about that one. Thoughts?
We’re talking from an high finance perspective of course.
So, serious question - do Canadian people cross shop US programs in addition to Canadian programs? If not, is it a matter of cost or visa/admissions? I figure that distance is not really an issue. If there is cross shopping, how do Canadian people generally view Canadian programs compared to US programs?
Tier 1 Canadian MBA’s are people that went to Tier 1 USA schools
Yeah we do for sure, I know quite a few people that have done it. But tuition can come at a significant premium as international students, plus there’s the whole hassle of visa issues and whatever. Beyond that I don’t really see what would stop us. I mean…unless you can’t get over the whole patriotic support your own country’s institutions thing. On the other hand, from what I’ve heard we have some very good programs, some have went as far as to say on par with ivey leagues depending on the specialization. How much of that is just canadian’s blowing smoke up my ass, I couldn’t say. I have a hard time seeing a canadian bank i.e. RBC turning you away because you went to a canadian school though.
Canada doesn’t come out on the FT top MBA list until University of Toronto : Rotman , #44 http://rankings.ft.com/businessschoolrankings/global-mba-rankings-2012/
Rank '12 School name Country Weighted sal. ($) Salary inc. (%) 1 Stanford Graduate School of Business US 192,179_8,919_ 129_14_ 2 Harvard Business School US 178,249_8,011_ 122_6_ 3 University of Pennsylvania: Wharton US 172,353_802_ 120_3_ 4 London Business School UK 152,981_7,205_ 134_2_ 5 Columbia Business School US 166,497_3,090_ 131_14_ 6 Insead France / Singapore 144,355_3,528_ 97_11_ 7 MIT: Sloan US 157,337_1,050_ 120_1_ 8 IE Business School Spain 156,658_7,074_ 139_3_ 9 Iese Business School Spain 133,888_1,998_ 148_10_ 10 Hong Kong UST Business School China 127,600_5,734_ 144_2_ 11 Indian Institute of Management, Ahmedabad India 175,076_636_ 140_12_ 12 University of Chicago: Booth US 152,585_1,212_ 109_0_ 13 IMD Switzerland 144,045_1,801_ 78_11_ 14 University of California at Berkeley: Haas US 146,811_2,021_ 91_4_ 15 Duke University: Fuqua US 139,405_2,842_ 108_1_ 16 Northwestern University: Kellogg US 145,834_2,469_ 96_4_ 17 New York University: Stern US 134,093_4,772_ 115_4_ 18 HEC Paris France 121,061_1,767_ 107_1_ 19 Dartmouth College: Tuck US 151,182_3,838_ 111_2_ 20 Indian School of Business India 129,512_4,894_ 177_10_ 20 Yale School of Management US 142,455_4,504_ 124_9_ 20 University of Oxford: Saïd UK 134,805_1,900_ 108_6_ 23 National University of Singapore Business School Singapore 97,625_2,831_ 185_45_ 24 Ceibs China 123,058_3,257_ 150_5_ 24 Cornell University: Johnson US 141,727_1,454_ 116_9_ 26 University of Cambridge: Judge UK 132,758_4,441_ 96_5_ 27 Warwick Business School UK 118,151_8,840_ 94_28_ 28 CUHK Business School China 100,408 160 29 University of Michigan: Ross US 129,649_7,540_ 101_3_ 30 Rotterdam School of Management, Erasmus University Netherlands 103,628_4,341_ 114_23_ 31 Manchester Business School UK 117,016_916_ 116_5_ 32 UCLA: Anderson US 136,331_1,395_ 108_2_ 33 Esade Business School Spain 114,988_10,358_ 115_13_ 34 Nanyang Business School Singapore 102,350_2,602_ 129_8_ 35 Carnegie Mellon: Tepper US 132,325_5,247_ 109_9_ 36 Cranfield School of Management UK 125,196_6,863_ 88_1_ 37 University of Hong Kong China 106,720 121 38 University of Virginia: Darden US 134,936_4,148_ 109_7_ 38 City University: Cass UK 111,552_12,454_ 86_4_ 40 Emory University: Goizueta US 124,832_3,997_ 111_6_ 41 Australian School of Business (AGSM) Australia 118,943_4,577_ 90_9_ 42 SDA Bocconi Italy 102,854_7,332_ 120_3_ 43 Georgetown University: McDonough US 123,290_4,249_ 107_1_ 44 University of Toronto: Rotman Canada 94,255_4,505_ 101_14_ 45 Rice University: Jones US 118,617_805_ 117_13_ 46 Imperial College Business School UK 104,619_10,944_ 74_18_ 46 Melbourne Business School Australia 110,701_920_ 78_1_ 46 Indiana University: Kelley US 113,217_541_ 118_32_ 49 Pennsylvania State University: Smeal US 109,114_971_ 125_37_ 49 University of Rochester: Simon US 112,992_1,766_ 129_19_ 51 Coppead Brazil 110,103 151 51 Texas A & M University: Mays US 108,606_171_ 134_18_ 51 University of Texas at Austin: McCombs US 121,170_1,872_ 93_0_ 54 Peking University: Guanghua China 79,914 201 54 University of Cape Town GSB South Africa 141,490_594_ 90_14_ 56 University of North Carolina: Kenan-Flagler US 118,959_4,309_ 92_4_ 57 University of Illinois at Urbana-Champaign US 105,726_2,779_ 117_4_ 58 University of Maryland: Smith US 109,375_1,556_ 92_13_ 59 York University: Schulich Canada 88,283_434_ 100_6_ 59 Purdue University: Krannert US 103,304_3,052_ 112_18_ 61 Washington University: Olin US 106,668 105 61 Vanderbilt University: Owen US 114,265_929_ 101_4_ 61 University of Southern California: Marshall US 121,060_4,612_ 94_8_ 61 McGill University: Desautels Canada 89,623_3,314_ 97_0_ 65 Hult International Business School US / UK / UAE / China 100,631_6,448_ 95_8_ 66 Sungkyunkwan University SKK GSB South Korea 100,779 102 66 Ohio State University: Fisher US 105,426_5,235_ 113_18_ 68 University of Western Ontario: Ivey Canada 100,738_3,589_ 88_9_ 69 Boston College: Carroll US 109,440_1,674_ 95_12_ 70 Vlerick Leuven Gent Management School Belgium 94,661_10,823_ 88_1_ 71 Lancaster University Management School UK 97,124_13,402_ 88_7_ 72 University of Minnesota: Carlson US 108,994 96 73 University of Washington: Foster US 109,088_1,970_ 90_17_ 74 Georgia Institute of Technology: Scheller US 110,118_5,118_ 86_26_ 74 Wisconsin School of Business US 108,990_2,467_ 109_9_ 76 Incae Business School Costa Rica 84,411_4,801_ 131_25_ 77 Michigan State University: Broad US 98,784 101 77 Boston University School of Management US 106,762_1,966_ 98_1_ 79 George Washington University US 104,814 104 80 Wake Forest University: Babcock US 108,737_217_ 127_17_ 81 University of California at Irvine: Merage US 99,333_2,162_ 97_16_ 82 University of British Columbia: Sauder Canada 80,898_7,996_ 76_4_ 83 University of Pittsburgh: Katz US 88,783 137 83 University of Edinburgh Business School UK 97,733_4,335_ 63_1_ 85 University of Notre Dame: Mendoza US 106,171_1,743_ 104_3_ 86 Northeastern University US 93,824 112 86 Birmingham Business School UK 87,274_9,845_ 87_0_ 86 University College Dublin: Smurfit Ireland 102,026_3,328_ 70_2_ 89 Thunderbird School of Global Management US 100,803_2,181_ 89_9_ 90 University of Iowa: Tippie US 92,978_320_ 128_9_ 91 S P Jain School of Global Management Dubai / Singapore 79,809_1,703_ 146_40_ 91 Aston Business School UK 83,286 85 93 University of St Gallen Switzerland 91,106 60 94 Durham Business School UK 91,718_9,463_ 61_28_ 95 University of South Carolina: Moore US 93,053_1,756_ 105_12_ 95 Ipade Mexico 90,900_5,829_ 176_37_ 95 Bradford University School of Management UK 87,228 110 98 Brigham Young University: Marriott US 101,189_1,632_ 118_16_ 98 SMU: Cox US 101,286_1,864_ 90_1_ 100 Babson College: Olin US 106,506_6,886_ 85
McGill!
Is Mcgill’s bcomm program considered strong? I know the school is known for medicine and law.
I’d add Rotman and McGill to your list of Ivey and Queen’s as top tier in Canada (not necessarily top tier in NA or internationally). As for UBC, I don’t know - I just don’t think it has the same reputation nationally that the other 4 do. Same goes for Schulich - it is recruited heavily by banks in CAN and seems to always rank in the top 100 internationally, but simply based on admission criteria and acceptance rates I wouldn’t put it in the same league as the others.
Also, it depends on the type of MBA, as there are usually options for a joint program with another school (ie Queen’s offers a joint eMBA with Cornell, Schulich with Kellogg, etc) which would add more of an international component, could increase reputation, etc.
Re McGill’s BComm, I’ve always heard great things. I think it is overlooked by a lot of Ontario students due to its location (as well as the presence of strong undergrad programs in the province like Western, Queen’s, U of T). That said, I think a lot of people could be missing out as Montreal really is a great city.