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How important is brand name in Banking?

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I’d also consider office environment and location/distance from home in this scenario.. nothing worse than being stuck in a stinky building

infinitybenzo wrote:

  Not only weird but also sickening.

Stfu fool

When the yanks acknowlege their own atrocities in cuba and their soldiers raping innocent japanese women after ww2 and the brits and french stop re writing **** about their crappy empires then well talk

White Americas idea of free speech is that they are free to say anything but if anyone else says anything it is an outrage - Winston Churchill

pokhim wrote:

Japs pay well though dude. So if you’re only looking for a couple of years and then move on to somthing better then go with the Japs and move to SCB in a couple of years and you’ll get a upsize in salary. 

If you’re junior then you wont have much interaction with Jap anyway so dont worry about culture and all that stuff just yet. 

That said, SCB is THE trade finance bank of the world… def one of the most recognized especially in emerging markets, so exit options will be good.

I think both are good choices, so just go with thwe one where the management is best and you team looks the coolest.

I do know that SCB has a high volume of trade finance related work, but I did not know that it is THE trade finance bank of the world. Definitely am looking to move onto something better after 2/3 years, depending on the market and where trade finance skill sets can take me. TBH I was a lot less impressed by SCB than Mizuho, even though their trade finance business is more recognized etc, as I will most likely be only pegged to 1 function for the entire duration that I will be there. Office environment was not great either. 

ohai wrote:

Where is this job located? In the US, both banks are relatively obscure, even though they have expansive global businesses. Mizuho is expanding more aggressively here though, along with Nomura and maybe some other comparable companies. Standard Chartered’s reputation in the US was destroyed by their money laundering scandal with Iran, and they might never recover.

Outside the US, I would imagine Standard Chartered is more prestigious, and you should probably lean there, if everything else is equal. For what it’s worth, I think the whole “multiple hats” attribute is overrated. If you work somewhere with more specialized roles, you are usually also in a more polished environment with higher work standards.

The reason why you would go to a less developed business is when you see upward career opportunities as the business grows. If you only plan on staying for two years, this is not as important of a consideration.

You make a good point about the “multiple hats” attribute, but after my interviews with both places, I will most likely be shoehorned into a particular role or product for my entire duration in SCB whereas I will have the opportunity to rotate in Mizuho. Not doing multiple jobs as you say, but having more exposure throughout. It also does seem like the japs have a more collegial working environment (ironically) maybe because a good portion of the team are locals, which is why I think I could potentially gain more there. 

In any case, this role is outside of the US, and you are right in saying that SCB is more prestigious, but would it translate to more upward opportunities in the short term or will brand name be a bigger factor than experience when I do make a switch after 2 or 3 years considering that my role was a junior one? 

DtimesDmeasures wrote:

…but would it translate to more upward opportunities in the short term or will brand name be a bigger factor than experience when I do make a switch after 2 or 3 years considering that my role was a junior one? 

Experience and brand name both make a difference, though one does not really trump the other. People coming out of SCB with 2/3 yrs experience will be pretty similar to Mizuho 2/3yrs analysts. 

The most important factor (after assuming skills/experience is the same) is office envirnomnent - i’ve worked in crap offices before and it’s a ball ache.. crap tech, crap people, stinky old offices. 

Go work for Mizuho! 

plumber > stripper > experience > CFA > MBA

jwazoniacki wrote:

infinitybenzo wrote:

  Not only weird but also sickening.

Stfu fool

When the yanks acknowlege their own atrocities in cuba and their soldiers raping innocent japanese women after ww2 and the brits and french stop re writing **** about their crappy empires then well talk

damn so we know who the jap is in AF lmao.  you must, along with majority of japs, think that child p****graphy is okay and acceptable and even pumps your blood??  This to me is “not only weird but sickening” that the country as a whole do not have a law for prohibiting underage nude photo shoots and sex scenes.  That is Japan.  Stating the facts so don’t get all hopped up there.

Be yourself. The world worships the original.

westerners are weird. who puts their parents in old age homes? like wtf?

White Americas idea of free speech is that they are free to say anything but if anyone else says anything it is an outrage - Winston Churchill

It is up to you I suppose, if you would rather have more substantial experience in a narrow role, or broader exposure but less depth of skills. My experience has just been that you can speak with more credibility with deeper experience in something. People will not expect you to know everything after 2 years when you are considering your next job. However, it is very important to appear that you know everything about your current job and that you can do it well. This is an indication that you can learn to do a job and have added value to your employer.

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- Everyone

ohai wrote:

It is up to you I suppose, if you would rather have more substantial experience in a narrow role, or broader exposure but less depth of skills. My experience has just been that you can speak with more credibility with deeper experience in something. People will not expect you to know everything after 2 years when you are considering your next job. However, it is very important to appear that you know everything about your current job and that you can do it well. This is an indication that you can learn to do a job and have added value to your employer.

Thanks for the insight. I’ll definitely take it onboard as I make my decision. 

Be yourself. The world worships the original.

lol das cause they poor. even if westerners can afford it they kick their parents out, how nasty.

this is the pinnacle of weirdness if you ask me

http://www.gq.com.au/gq+girls/girl+of+the+week/galleries/hot+girls+weari... (NSFW)

White Americas idea of free speech is that they are free to say anything but if anyone else says anything it is an outrage - Winston Churchill

jwazoniacki wrote:

lol das cause they poor. even if westerners can afford it they kick their parents out, how nasty.

this is the pinnacle of weirdness if you ask me

http://www.gq.com.au/gq+girls/girl+of+the+week/galleries/hot+girls+weari... (NSFW)

So for you, the japs’ exploitation of children in sexual ways - both commercially and legally - is not a big deal but the above link is “the pinnacle of weirdness”.  Not sure where your moral compass is……Children exploitation vs GQ…hmmmmmm

Be yourself. The world worships the original.

child pornography is illegal in japan you dumb *******. if you were so concerned about look at your own ****ty country which does nothing to stop or prosecute old wankers going to south east asia and engaging in sexual exploitation of underage women. weird ****s

White Americas idea of free speech is that they are free to say anything but if anyone else says anything it is an outrage - Winston Churchill

While tourists are drawn to exotic experiences, I would think most prostitution involves local customers.

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- Everyone

ohai wrote:

While tourists are drawn to exotic experiences, I would think most prostitution involves local customers.

depends on the city/ what part of the world

i just saw that link. nothing but duct tape is hot.

jwazoniacki wrote:

lol das cause they poor. even if westerners can afford it they kick their parents out, how nasty.

this is the pinnacle of weirdness if you ask me

http://www.gq.com.au/gq+girls/girl+of+the+week/galleries/hot+girls+weari... (NSFW)

I love my cheese. I got to have my cheddar.

I worked in trade finance.. Stay away if you can…PM me if you want more information on it.