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Ironman Triathlon vs CFA

ChickenTikka Wrote:
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> I know what you mean. I ate a ton before the
> level 2 exam. I can’t study well on an empty
> stomach. I also think I’m dumber without carbs.

Your brain requires about 25% of the oxygen you breathe, that oxygen is used almost exclusively to burn carbs and fat for energy throughout your entire body. So your brain uses about 25% of your average caloric expenditure, unless you really are a super athlete, in which case it’s somewhat less. So yeah, you need food for your brain to work right, and carbs arrive faster.

Pretty amazing that something that is roughly 5-10% of your biomass consumes roughly 1/4 of your caloric resources. It’s like the USA of the whole body.

You want a quote?  Haven’t I written enough already???

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bchadwick Wrote:
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> ChickenTikka Wrote:
> ————————————————–
> —–
> > I know what you mean. I ate a ton before the
> > level 2 exam. I can’t study well on an empty
> > stomach. I also think I’m dumber without
> carbs.
>
>
> Your brain requires about 25% of the oxygen you
> breathe, that oxygen is used almost exclusively to
> burn carbs and fat for energy throughout your
> entire body. So your brain uses about 25% of
> your average caloric expenditure, unless you
> really are a super athlete, in which case it’s
> somewhat less. So yeah, you need food for your
> brain to work right, and carbs arrive faster.
>
> Pretty amazing that something that is roughly
> 5-10% of your biomass consumes roughly 1/4 of your
> caloric resources. It’s like the USA of the whole
> body.

Sadly, my “USA” is full of Alabama’s and Mississippi’s…and Sara Palins

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ChickenTikka Wrote:
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> Being Born Wealthy > Being Jewish or WASPY > Born
> Pretty > Top 5 MBA > CFA > Avg MBA > Born middle
> class > Born lower

You cant compare the two-Ironman Triathlon will be much easier for a person who has played competitive sports in college while the CFA will be easier for someone with an MSF. But as others have mentioned, it would very difficult to concentrate on both simultaneously.

What’s harder SEAL school or CFA or Ironman?

you basically need to come from a target school pedigree/work at prestigious firm in the US/have a really good connection.

- AF hivemind

I think this goes without saying given the combination of mental requirements, elite conditioning and the dangers involved (scores die every year simply in training), becoming a Navy Seal is most definitely something few can do.

With enough dedication and determination, people can attain the Charter and/or complete the Ironman.

Speaking from experience, I can say that completing the CFA program is a far greater accomplishment than completing a single Ironman triathlon.

In many ways, the CFA program is like one long Ironman type event that stretches over three years–four more like it.

Level I is the swim, Level II is like the bike, and Level III is the marathon.

Any couch potato can finish an Ironman with a years worth of training, but to finish the CFA exams takes a different kind of resolve.

When you fail to make a cutoff time in an Iroman your race is over, if you fail Level II for instance, your program is not done unless you want it to be, so to continue on knowing you will have to repeat a level takes some serious resolve and dedication to see the program through, since in the end you still have to get by Level III.

I will also say that trying to do both simultaneously is possible, but probably not smart.

ironman. If you’re a woman, you can have a child and take CFA.

IF you’re a woman, you can have a child OR take CFA. THey’re mutually exclusive events.

For the purposes of this discussion. Ironman Triathlon means an individual who actually finishes at a very respectable time (i.e., sub 10 hours). Running and training a marathon is completely different than training for an Ironman-distance Triathlon, so we should not mix the 2 disciplines up.

For finishing off L3 CFA, one may study at least 300 hours. Ironman Triathlon training may take at least 400 hours considering that you are already an elite athlete. It could probably take twice the time if you are a recreational sportsman.

The reason for taking a 1-year break from finishing off the L3 CFA is 2-fold:
1. Need to reassess my need to take the portfolio management-focus level, as I primarily work 70++ hours weekly.
2. Need to improve my health as 2 years taking L1 and L2 has caused my health to deteriorate.

Training for the Ironman and studying for L3 CFA is not an option at this point, especially with my hectic work and family schedule.

jackofalltrades Wrote:
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> For the purposes of this discussion. Ironman
> Triathlon means an individual who actually
> finishes at a very respectable time (i.e., sub 10
> hours). Running and training a marathon is
> completely different than training for an
> Ironman-distance Triathlon, so we should not mix
> the 2 disciplines up.
>
> For finishing off L3 CFA, one may study at least
> 300 hours. Ironman Triathlon training may take at
> least 400 hours considering that you are already
> an elite athlete. It could probably take twice the
> time if you are a recreational sportsman.
>
> The reason for taking a 1-year break from
> finishing off the L3 CFA is 2-fold:
> 1. Need to reassess my need to take the portfolio
> management-focus level, as I primarily work 70++
> hours weekly.
> 2. Need to improve my health as 2 years taking L1
> and L2 has caused my health to deteriorate.
>
> Training for the Ironman and studying for L3 CFA
> is not an option at this point, especially with my
> hectic work and family schedule.

Don’t get snotty about Ironman v marathons. When I’m talking about marathons, I mean people who actually run competitive times. My personal cutoff is a 3:30, most “Ironmen” cannot match that. Furthermore, marathoning for me has lead to ultras, and in my mind, no Ironman compares to the world of ultramarathoning.

#FreeCVM #FreeTurd #2007-2017

Not to mention, from the sounds of it you’re authoritatively comparing three things you’ve never attempted or even begun to train for (CFA LIII with your BS 300 hour estimate, marathons and triath).

#FreeCVM #FreeTurd #2007-2017

BS - Don’t get snotty about ultramarathons vs. Ironmans.

Take it easy, I’m sure jack meant no personal disrespect.

brain_wash_your_face Wrote:
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> What’s harder SEAL school or CFA or Ironman?

My brother went through SEALs training (BUDs) and said it’s an absolute nightmare. He has cross trained himself to be extremely strong without sacrificing his running ability. Some people may be able to run marathons in their sleep but I doubt anyone has ever gone through BUDs thinking it was a cake walk. Nothing (Ironman, Ultrathon, Marathon, etc..) compares to special forces training.

I agree with Cuckrox8. I made my special ops experience and there is one very distinctive edge: constant discomfort.

Prolongued exercising (tri or cfa) makes you an expert in coping with the stress associated that very specific task. In special ops training you will have to endure a constantly changing sources of stress. Adapting to it is very demanding and difficult.

I don’t want say long distand tri or running is not difficult, but the long training periods help you to master the mental challenges attached to it. You can go all out without having to worry that the “set of rules” or the “playground” is changed. That makes it easier.
On the other hand, in special ops training you will never no what is going on or how long it is going to last. I experienced this a far more difficult and stressful (both physically and mentally).

^^Agree, that’s why I asked the question. Just trying to bring a little reality. I would actulally say that endurance events are the easiest, simply because you know exactly what to expect and you only need to be proficient in one skill (marathon) or only three (triath). CFA is tougher because you do not know exactly what to expect on exam day and you need to be proficient in a variety of mental calithetics. BUDs is undoubtably tougher, than either.

Anybody ever go through some sealfit workouts (SEAL acquaintance of mine recommended)? Probably the hardest workout in terms of volume and varied training I’ve experienced and I was rested and especting it. Imagine that when you are exhausted and taken by surprise.

you basically need to come from a target school pedigree/work at prestigious firm in the US/have a really good connection.

- AF hivemind

No, but here’s a training manual for those who wish to give BUD/S training. This is supposed to prepare candidates who are serious about passing.

http://sealswcc.com/navy-seals-physical-training-guide.aspx

TDIGZ Wrote:
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> No, but here’s a training manual for those who
> wish to give BUD/S training. This is supposed to
> prepare candidates who are serious about passing.
>
> http://sealswcc.com/navy-seals-physical-training-g
> uide.aspx

i think i’m going to start using that set guide - i was just challenged to running a >20min 5k and look forward to getting it.

Try running that same 5k in combat boots and fatigues on soft sand.

i’m sure running it backwards up the side of a mountain would suk too, but that’s not what i’m going for here. just time and bragging rights.

Black Swan Wrote:
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> Not to mention, from the sounds of it you’re
> authoritatively comparing three things you’ve
> never attempted or even begun to train for (CFA
> LIII with your BS 300 hour estimate, marathons and
> triath).

Take a chill pill. It was an honest question for everyone’s comments. No insult or disrespect intended. You may have your own views, and so do other people. There is no need to be angry.

Fact is, I have never tried doing either L3 CFA or Ironman Triathlon. Hence, the post. I have done a few long-distance marathons while studying for L1 and L2, though.

My first Ironman is in Boulder on 6/9/19 - currently in Winter Park doing high elevation training to prepare. 

"A theory that you can't explain to a bartender is probably no damn good."
- Ernest Rutherford

Ironman’s ive done in past 5 years: Whistler, Monte Tremblant, Cabo, Coeur d’Alene

Half Ironmans I’ve done past 5 years: Oceanside (multiple times), Vineman (multiple times), Boulder, Lake Stevens

Both Triathlon and CFA requires lots of discipline. I work out twice a day to train my body, and study all the time to train my brain. It’s especially difficult to do both Ironman training, CFA studying, work full time and spend time with the family.

Unfortunately, any idiot can complete an Ironman as the MPS is quite easy (17 hours). Not many idiots can pass the CFA.

Isaiah_53_5 wrote:

My first Ironman is in Boulder on 6/9/19 - currently in Winter Park doing high elevation training to prepare. 

you trying to get lit after?!?!?

¯\_(ツ)_/¯ It be like that sometimes.

125mph wrote:

Ironman’s ive done in past 5 years: Whistler, Monte Tremblant, Cabo, Coeur d’Alene

Half Ironmans I’ve done past 5 years: Oceanside (multiple times), Vineman (multiple times), Boulder, Lake Stevens

Both Triathlon and CFA requires lots of discipline. I work out twice a day to train my body, and study all the time to train my brain. It’s especially difficult to do both Ironman training, CFA studying, work full time and spend time with the family.

Unfortunately, any idiot can complete an Ironman as the MPS is quite easy (17 hours). Not many idiots can pass the CFA.

That’s pretty damn impressive to be honest. I have friends who train for triathlon and it’s seems like a 2nd full-time job. Can’t imagine adding studying CFA on top of it. I have trained and ran 1 marathon per year while studying for CFA and even that can get quite hectic. And I don’t even have a family of my own. 

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