Perseverance

Disclaimer: I originally posted this in the level III thread, but for what it’s worth, thought it might be relevant here.

I’m not sure if I should be more embarrassed or proud about this. In reality it’s probably a little bit of both. I apologize ahead of time if this post is a little long, but I thought it necessary to share my experience through the CFA program. As a little backstory I’ve never been good at taking standardized exams. I’m not sure if it was my focus or nerves, but I’ve never been the best test taker and it’s always kind of been a struggle for me. On top of that I was a marketing major in college, so I only took one finance class and a couple of accounting classes. A lot of this material to me was brand new and I had to try my best to teach myself. Teaching yourself derivatives is not something I would wish upon my worst enemy. I decided back in 2008 that I wanted to take the CFA exams cause I wanted a career in the investment industry. I figured getting the charter would be more helpful than getting an MBA. Now for those that don’t know when I took level I in the December of 2008 that was the last exam to have four answers for multiple choice. The following spring they went down ot three choices. That’s how long I’ve been taking this exams! lol Here’s a recap of my results and in my opinion reasons for my lack of success or lessons I learned:

Level I

Dec. 08 - Fail

I had no idea what I was getting myself into and didn’t prepare properly even in the slightest bit. I didn’t use any supplemental material and literally read every single page of the CFA books. I didn’t do any mock exams and didn’t do nearly enough practice problems. This is probably a text book example of how to not study for a standardized exam. Looking back on it now, I just laugh how terrible my plan was.

June 09 - Fail Band 9

This time around I used schweser to help me get prepared for the exams. I did no more than 1-2 practice exams which didn’t help. I also think I spent too much time focusing on the Q-bank. I don’t think I understood the theory and concepts of what the LOS were trying to teach and ultimately it cost me.

Dec. 09 - Fail Band 10

I believe it was the lowest pass rate in the history of the level I exam 34%. IMO I feel like the low rate was to make up for the high rate (46%) that was in the spring when they went to 3 choices instead of 4, and they wanted to make it harder in the winter. Either way it was crushing to get a band 10 after getting a band 9. At this point I started to question if this was the program for me. Because I’m a stubborn son of a ***** I pushed on.

June 10 - Pass

It’s about damn time!

Level II

June 11 - Fail - Band 2

I had gotten my first job in the investment industry and didn’t have proper time to prepare. In the end I probably just had a really bad game plan and got psyched out on hearing all of the horror stories of level II

June 12 - Fail - Band 2

It’s hard to remember what went wrong here. I think I probably did a lot of the same mistakes I did in 2011, which seems ridiculous when I think about it. I guess if you keep doing the same things you did in the past, but expect different results that the definition of insanity?

June 13 - Fail - Band 4-5 I think

Ugh…

June 14- Pass

So close. I can see the light at the end of the tunnel! At this point in my life my girlfriend and I had moved to Seoul, South Korea so I ended up taking this exam overseas which was quite the experience.

Level III

June 15 - Fail -Band 2-3

The essay part was something that I didn’t prepare properly for. I did wrote too much and didn’t use my time wisely. Again my game plan on preparing for the exam was bad. (Do we see a reoccurring theme here??)

June 16 - Fail - Band 7

In all honesty I thought I had passed. I’m not sure if I was over confident or what. I think this was the hardest results day because you can see the light at the end of the tunnel and when you think you got it or to come up short was killer. For a brief moment I thought about giving up. That lasted for about 1 hour, because I’m a stubborn SOB.

June 17 - Pass

Victory!

If you’re still reading this, I appreciate it. I just wanted to share with others my journey because there may be others going through the same thing I did. I’m still in shock and keep waiting for the institute to contact me to say they made a mistake and that I didn’t pass. This journey that started in the summer of 2008 is now coming to a close. I know a lot of people on here probably took a lot less time than me and maybe even went 3/3 on the exams. If I had to give any advice to people who are that close to finishing or just starting this is what tips I would give them.

  1. Have a detailed plan from the beginning and stick to it. There were numerous times that I think was just piling up hours of studying (which is still necessary), but I didn’t have a real game plan on what I wanted to accomplish each day.

  2. Do as many practice exams as possible. Don’t wait until the last month to start. Start 2-3 before the exam. You won’t know what you don’t know until you try to simulate the real thing.

  3. Try to really understand what the concept is and don’t just get caught up in the number crunching and getting your answer. The better you truly understand the material the easier it will get on exam day.

  4. Never give up! I had many a dark days and times where I questioned if I was smart enough, or ahd the fortitude to push on. I knew this was important enough to me that I was going to get through this no matter what.

Again my apologies for this super long post, but I just wanted to share my thoughts on this beast!

Congratulations, your perseverance paid off. However, i feel like at a certain point the ROI isn’t worth it. 9-10 years and over 10,000 USD in exam fees is insane, and i’m sure an MBA might’ve been the better decision.

You have more stamina than I would ever have writing these tests that many times.

Congrats though mate!

I hope you find somebody to love

F u ck that!.. No way is CFA worth 10yrs of ur life.

I guess a clock is right 2 times a day, but dude ur a retard.

You set a goal and achieved it. Good work!

How did the CFA help you? I presume you have no social life and are not married and have no kids, right? btw - nice job

I was planning to hate but since you guys already beat me to the punch ill offer my congrats and respect for seeing it through.

Btw - not sure if i mentioned this but Tech is the new place to be in.

Wow! congrats and good job!

Now start guaranteeing superior returns!

good job man. dont let the haters get to you.

go out there and make us proud lil cubby

One day, brosef looks in the mirror, young and full of youth, says ‘i’m gonna pass these exams!’

A decade later, he stares in the mirror, with crow’s feet, grey hair, balding, no wife, and silently whispers to himself in the mirror ‘you did it!’. In celebration, he has a beer.

I hope you find somebody

I hope you find somebody

I hope you find somebody to love

Big congrats. Not for passing the exams but on developing that trait that many people don’t have. It will take you far in life.

Lol, Love these comments! To each their own I guess. Good luck to everyone and my wish is that you all get through this more “efficiently” than I did. Cheers!

Dang dude, you’re like a VW owner - a glutton for heartache and anguish.

That said, impressive perseverance. Do you believe the program has aided your career?

What did you end up doing for a job if you don’t mind me asking

Hendriar: congrats! You’re a rare and distinguished breed, and your perseverance and tenacity will get you far in life. Don’t listen to these haters, everyone has their own path and you’re making yours come hell or high water.

I think I need to pin this to my computer screen.

I genuinely think that’s impressive, I would have quit if I failed a level 2 times

Passing level I allowed me to get a job in portfolio management position with high-net worth clients. I’m currently working at a large B/D helping managing assets and meeting with clients. I’m also currently in the final rounds of interviews for a Alternatives and Research Analyst. Non of these comments bother me even a little bit because I’m done. I obviously spent more on the exams than the average person, but a MBA would have cost me well over 70k so CFA was still a lot cheaper and more focused into things that interest me.

There’s always going to be people rooting against you in life and tell you what you can’t do. In the end I think people should do what they think is best for them, and at the same time live with those consequences. My hope is people read my post and don’t make the same mistakes I did. This is a challenging exam and this forum should be used to help and support each other, not cut each other down. IMO

Cheers!