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At what point do we ban the mods?

It’s pretty bad, probably time for a shake up.

this is like Black Lives Matter wanting to dismantle the police. But in this case, the police are working for free and BLM is a few trolls on an internet forum

Hope. It is the quintessential human delusion, simultaneously the source of your greatest strength, and greatest weakness.

^Why do you hate black people? Were you beaten up by black dudes?

itera wrote:
But in this case, the police are working for free…

Overpaid.

Posts are being deleted by “the police” (as they call themselves), abuse of power. Pretty sure Igor’s post of “lol” can not be a forum violation. Who is policing “the police”?

^correct - and these cowards refuse to answer me or acknowledge who did it and why

"You want a quote? Haven’t I written enough already???"

RIP

It would be nice if there was a little more transparency when a post gets removed -> (Deleted by bchad) for example.

Also, there have been several instances of some mods removing posts just because they were either directed at them or they just didn’t like the content of the post even though it wasn’t breaking the rules. 

I place into evidence this thread…

A serious topic for discussion, which a number of forum members have shown interest in discussing seriously. Yet THREE mods jump in and start trolling the thread with one liners (BChad is at least subtle about it, but with Itera and S2000 it is blatant trolling).

Then an over-the-top troll comes in, Topperharley. After his 10 posts filled with name calling and attacks that “this thread is stupid”, he admits he hasn’t even read the thread!! And the hilarious part, the mods (S2000) start trolling me for policing this guy, when they should be doing either 1) doing actual moderating, or at least 2) doing nothing. 

Economics: if you don’t get paid, but add NEGATIVE value, the company creates value by firing the unpaid non-employee. wink

http://www.analystforum.com/forums/water-cooler/91354290

^ S2000 brought up on that thread that he doesn’t care what the forum users think of his substandard behavior, only what the boss thinks. We learned about these types of mgmt problems in CFA/MBA studies. I would propose…

A user satisfaction survey on the mod’s performance. These types of exercises can be enlightening. enlightened

S2000magician wrote:
you’re acting like a liar and a jerk.

More mod trolling. As usually S2k isn’t even following the thread, or adding anything to the conversation. He’s jumping into the thread only to name call forum members, generate some reaction, and hopefully derail the discussion for pages with his witless one-liners.

It’s clear that banning this person would lead to a better forum. Negative contribution far outweighs positive contribution. 

http://www.analystforum.com/forums/water-cooler/91354365?page=5

purealpha wrote:
S2000magician wrote:
you’re acting like a liar and a jerk.

More mod trolling.

If you’re going to quote me, at least have the intellectual honesty to include the entire quote, to put it into context.

Here, for example, your selective quotation makes it sound as though I’m the one calling you a liar and a jerk, whereas in reality I’m merely interpreting what higgmond was writing.

Your assumption that I want to derail the thread is also incorrect, and blatantly self-serving.  You’re the one who has refused several times in the thread to address higgmond’s request.  If you had wanted to keep the thread on track, you could have done so simply by answering his question.  Instead you persist in your holier-than-thou arrogance, then whine in this thread when someone has the temerity to point it out.

Further, your conclusion that I’m not following the thread is also baseless; indeed, it was exactly from following the thread that I discovered that you repeatedly dodged higgmond’s request.  Of course, if you admit that I am following the thread, you might be forced to concede that you’re the one who’s been acting like an ass throughout.

At least you have the satisfaction that this reply isn’t a one-liner.

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igor555 wrote:
^correct - and these cowards refuse to answer me or acknowledge who did it and why

I, for one, didn’t delete it.

As you know, I’ve PMed you when I’ve deleted your threads.

So … it’s still a mystery.  Slightly less of a mystery, but still a mystery.

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S2000magician wrote:

igor555 wrote:
^correct - and these cowards refuse to answer me or acknowledge who did it and why

I, for one, didn’t delete it.

As you know, I’ve PMed you when I’ve deleted your threads.

So … it’s still a mystery.  Slightly less of a mystery, but still a mystery.

i had a hunch it wasnt you since you are a real man and own up. the rest are cowards 

"You want a quote? Haven’t I written enough already???"

RIP

I hate to flog a dead horse but can we get CVM back?

#freeCVM

mk17 wrote:
I hate to flog a dead horse but can we get CVM back?

#freeCVM

You’re trying to derail this thread, you’re replying in droll one-liners, and you’re contributing nothing.

According to purealpha, you should be banned.

wink

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The problem starts at the top.  Yes, I’m looking at Chad Sandstedt.  He doesn’t have the vision to bring this site to the next level.   We were at an inflection point a few years ago and unfortunately the site took the wrong direction.  Chad was a genius starting this baby but he isn’t the right man to grow this thing from here.  If AF had shareholders, he would have been booted off.

What I’m basically saying is if Chad Sandstedt had any pride left, he would retire.

Telling it like it is on AF since 2007.

former trader wrote:
We were at an inflection point a few years ago and unfortunately the site took the wrong direction.

We’ve been studying inflection points in my Business Calculus class.

Was the site going from being concave upward to concave downward, or from concave downward to concave upward?

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Telling it like it is on AF since 2007.

former trader wrote:

The problem starts at the top.  Yes, I’m looking at Chad Sandstedt.  He doesn’t have the vision to bring this site to the next level.   We were at an inflection point a few years ago and unfortunately the site took the wrong direction.  Chad was a genius starting this baby but he isn’t the right man to grow this thing from here.  If AF had shareholders, he would have been booted off.

What I’m basically saying is if Chad Sandstedt had any pride left, he would retire.

Please let me know when you have some time for a call to discuss your ideas. I would like to hear them.

former trader wrote:

So, concave down to concave up.

Of course, that by itself doesn’t tell us anything about the slope of the curve.  Your graph assumes that it’s positive; it needn’t be.

And it could change from concave up to concave down; in that case, you don’t necessarily want that point to be an inflection point; a local minimum would be much better.

Simplify the complicated side; don't complify the simplicated side.

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Let’s start with replacing the moderator team. 

chad.sandstedt wrote:

former trader wrote:

The problem starts at the top.  Yes, I’m looking at Chad Sandstedt.  He doesn’t have the vision to bring this site to the next level.   We were at an inflection point a few years ago and unfortunately the site took the wrong direction.  Chad was a genius starting this baby but he isn’t the right man to grow this thing from here.  If AF had shareholders, he would have been booted off.

What I’m basically saying is if Chad Sandstedt had any pride left, he would retire.

Please let me know when you have some time for a call to discuss your ideas. I would like to hear them.

If you are sincere and actually going to consider them then send me your email and I will put something together.  We can start from there.

Telling it like it is on AF since 2007.

former trader wrote:

If you are sincere and actually going to consider them then send me your email and I will put something together.  We can start from there.

PM sent.

FT’s email begins and ends with, “AF needs a HOF.”

More out of control mod behavior…

S2000magician wrote:

Typical.

You’re either too ignorant, too stupid, or too arrogant to answer a legitimate question, so you resort to personal attacks.

Your posts here are pathetic.

S2000magician wrote:

Perhaps you should quote some of this in your thread about having the mods banned; it hasn’t seen your pathetic whining in several days now.

One suggestion, visit the High IQ Forum. In decades of forum posting, I’ve never seen anything like it, a serious internet outlier. It’s absolutely civil, filled with intelligent analytical discussion, or sometimes a bit short of intelligent, but never rude.

How is this achieved? Smart people are mods. Smart people see patterns and use sound judgment. Let’s say a disruptive creep starts trolling, the person is deleted. Someone posts stupid things, the mods inform them it is a smart person forum, they should post complete sentences and not intentionally dumb things, if they post stupid things again, they are deleted. 

The Water Cooler would be pretty cool if it were a serious financial analyst forum. There’s not one on the internet, so I use this one. Certainly highly paid CFAs are capable of polite intelligence discussion. If it’s going to remain a zoo, I’m fine with that too. But the nature of a forum is determined by site owners and policies, it’s actually not determined by forum posters, posters simply adapt their style to fit what is allowed.

Currently, everything is allowed. laugh

Perhaps the reason the High IQ Forum is so great is that it doesn’t have people on it who behave the way you behave here.

Rather than whine about how others behave, you might try leading by example.  Take responsibility for your role in the threads about which you’re complaining here.  People (e.g., higgmond) ask you legitimate questions, but rather than answering them, you put on this air of arrogance, suggesting that they’re either too ignorant or too stupid for you to be bothered.

As an example, exactly which part of this post of yours is absolutely civil, filled with intellectual discussion, and not rude?

purealpha wrote:
Try to keep up, because not sure I can dumb this down any further.

Simplify the complicated side; don't complify the simplicated side.

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S2000magician wrote:
Perhaps the reason the High IQ Forum is so great is that it doesn’t have people on it who behave the way you behave here.

That doesn’t make sense, as I am one of their most frequent posters there. How behavior of individuals differs by forum was precisely my point (which as usual you missed while you were busy trolling my post). As I already explained, forum behavior is shaped by site owners, web design, policies, and mod behavior. In the case of that highly functional forum; known policies, unbiased mods with excellent judgment, that have the best interests of the forum in mind.

S2000magician wrote:
Rather than whine about how others behave, you might try leading by example.  

Pretty sure that is your job. Your performance is lacking, hence my starting this thread. 

purealpha wrote:
S2000magician wrote:
Perhaps the reason the High IQ Forum is so great is that it doesn’t have people on it who behave the way you behave here.

That doesn’t make sense, as I am one of their most frequent posters there. How behavior of individuals differs by forum was precisely my point (which as usual you missed while you were busy trolling my post). As I already explained, forum behavior is shaped by site owners, web design, policies, and mod behavior. In the case of that highly functional forum; known policies, unbiased mods with excellent judgment, that have the best interests of the forum in mind.

S2000magician wrote:
Rather than whine about how others behave, you might try leading by example.

Pretty sure that is your job. Your performance is lacking, hence my starting this thread.

It’s not a matter of whose job it it; it’s a matter of taking responsibility for your own actions.  You know: acting like an adult.

At least we know where you stand: you take no responsibility for your own behavior.  The problems here are everybody else’s fault.

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purealpha wrote:

Economics: if you don’t get paid, but add NEGATIVE value, the company creates value by firing the unpaid non-employee. wink

A company hires unpaid non-employees? do you listen to yourself? my god the stupidity is unreal. go troll somewhere else.

I’m pretty certain there’s far greater value in banning your negative value to AF then to ban the unpaid free labor of the mods.

Hope. It is the quintessential human delusion, simultaneously the source of your greatest strength, and greatest weakness.

^What free labor? Labor implies work. You don’t do anything.

Palantir wrote:
^What free labor? Labor implies work. You don’t do anything.

He PMs me.

Simplify the complicated side; don't complify the simplicated side.

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