I’m enjoying our discussion as well, numi. Putting things into words makes you ask tougher questions, and in fact I would prefer to hear the opposite opinion, I’m always trying my best to poke holes in my own arguments by reading and soliciting opinions opposite to mine, so if you’ve got any criticisms/questions/counter arguments, please throw them my way. In this field if you can’t change your mind you get blown out of the water.
In terms of valuation not mattering for a binary call, what cash flow assumptions are you going to input? Things are so uncertain right now that a DCF is bound to be toilet paper within a few months. You could do a probability weighted DCF, but there is no real sense of what a restructured and service focused RIM might look like, management doesn’t even know - the value would then be totally arbitrary. You could input reasonable FCF assumptions for a successful BB10 launch, okay, but what probability do you assign? 20-30% for that scenario as Peter Misek suggests in my view is extraordinarily high. Then you get buyout value, most estimates I see are $5-7, but you know they won’t want to sell for that and will give restructuring into the IBM business model a go. So generally any valuation right now won’t be accurate, there is just too much uncertainty.
What I see is that the stock has tripled in a few months. I can’t ascribe this to anything but the upcoming BB10 launch, there is literally nothing else in terms of news that has come out that would lead to this type of price action. People didn’t wake up one morning and realize the RIM has valuable patents, they knew that at $6, they knew that RIM has a large sub base of 80MM at $6, they pretty much knew everything about the company at $6 that they know today at $17, except the details and launch date of BB10. If BB10 fails, there is literally nothing to stop RIM from sliding into the single digits, I doubt that all of sudden the speculative buyers will turn into value investors and start assessing RIM’s balance sheet and patent portfolio and realize that they were wrong to knock the stock into the single digits a few months ago. Most likely that won’t be the case, most likely these guys will run for the exits as fast as possible bidding RIM’s stock back into the single digits and overdoing things from a fundamental perspective, THEN valuation becomes the tool to use and base your thesis on, but by then you’ve covered your short based on my binary thesis and are reassessing the situation with a clean slate. The reverse case is also true, if my call is a bust, you cover your short at a loss, and take a look at fundamentals, by then you can compile a half decent model knowing RIM’s business plan for the medium and long term, sprinkle it with a bunch of arbitrary assumptions, format it to look pretty and show you’ve done a lot of work to impress a boss who wouldn’t know alpha if it fell into his morning coffee, and you’re set!!
The healthcare analyst is right, valuation is the basis for almost all investment (not trading) decisions, and the speculative buyers are betting BB10 will lead to higher CF’s and thus higher valuation, the underlying force of any asset market is the valuation of an assets cash flows (or the CF’s it has a hand in creating). In the case of RIM, we know valuation will be substantially higher if BB10 takes off, and substantially lower if it doesn’t. More accurate valuation, as I mentioned before, will be performed once the dust settles.
My risk/reward profile is based on this: I think there is a 5-10% chance that BB10 succeeds; it’s a good bet even if potential share price appreciation is substantially higher in percentage terms than the potential price depreciation.
In summary, I am calling RIM a screaming short at these levels, and would advise increasing positions if it goes above 20-21$ in the next few weeks. I see RIM in single digits by the middle of the year.
Hopefully this rather long post made my rationale a little bit clearer, sorry for such a long diatribe.