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“Virginia Gov. Ralph Northam met with top aides Sunday night amid mounting calls from fellow Democrats to resign over a racist photograph, an episode that has pressured a party that has promoted a zero-tolerance policy against members who have been accused of bigotry and sexual misconduct.”

“after party leaders urged the governor over the weekend to step down after the photo surfaced from his 1984 medical-school yearbook—showing one person in blackface and another wearing a white Ku Klux Klan uniform—he refused, saying the depiction is horrible but that he isn’t in the photograph. He said earlier that he was in the photo.”

I know they are trying to project some kind of collective moral quality here, but is it really in the party’s interests to hunt their own elected members over 35 year old party photos? To me, this portrays them as radicals who put political correctness over practicality. 

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- Everyone

ohai wrote:

https://www.wsj.com/articles/democrats-press-for-defiant-virginia-govern...

“Virginia Gov. Ralph Northam met with top aides Sunday night amid mounting calls from fellow Democrats to resign over a racist photograph, an episode that has pressured a party that has promoted a zero-tolerance policy against members who have been accused of bigotry and sexual misconduct.”

“after party leaders urged the governor over the weekend to step down after the photo surfaced from his 1984 medical-school yearbook—showing one person in blackface and another wearing a white Ku Klux Klan uniform—he refused, saying the depiction is horrible but that he isn’t in the photograph. He said earlier that he was in the photo.”

I know they are trying to project some kind of collective moral quality here, but is it really in the party’s interests to hunt their own elected members over 35 year old party photos? To me, this portrays them as radicals who put political correctness over practicality. 

I mean, it could also be that the guy hasn’t had a change of heart in thee past 35 years with regards to race relations.

The GOP is losing among almost every demographic except for 45+ white men without a college degree – I don’t think they want to lose what little support they have among non-white voters.

Really? This causes me to be less supportive of the Democratic party. I don’t fit the demographic you described and I have not voted for a Republican other than Mitt Romney. Minority voters who oppose Trump on the basis of perceived racism aren’t going to flip parties because of this. However, center people who do not affiliate with either party generally have a negative view of political correctness. 

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- Everyone

ohai wrote:

Really? This causes me to be less supportive of the Democratic party. I don’t fit the demographic you described and I have not voted for a Republican other than Mitt Romney. Minority voters who oppose Trump on the basis of perceived racism aren’t going to flip parties because of this. However, center people who do not affiliate with either party generally have a negative view of political correctness. 

Lol, just realized he was a Dem. That makes a lot more sense – the Dem’s don’t support racists. He should step down. It’s about setting a standard for everyone in the party. You can’t call out GOP for being racists when you protect racism.

This isn’t calling for a resignation because he misgendered a non-binary individual. This is a bit more straightforward.

ohai wrote:

Really? This causes me to be less supportive of the Democratic party. I don’t fit the demographic you described and I have not voted for a Republican other than Mitt Romney. Minority voters who oppose Trump on the basis of perceived racism aren’t going to flip parties because of this. However, center people who do not affiliate with either party generally have a negative view of political correctness. 

Could impact turnout though 

Schopenhauer wrote:

ohai wrote:

Really? This causes me to be less supportive of the Democratic party. I don’t fit the demographic you described and I have not voted for a Republican other than Mitt Romney. Minority voters who oppose Trump on the basis of perceived racism aren’t going to flip parties because of this. However, center people who do not affiliate with either party generally have a negative view of political correctness. 

Lol, just realized he was a Dem. That makes a lot more sense – the Dem’s don’t support racists. He should step down. It’s about setting a standard for everyone in the party. You can’t call out GOP for being racists when you protect racism.

This isn’t calling for a resignation because he misgendered a non-binary individual. This is a bit more straightforward.

Dems say they are against racism but they are by far the most racist if you look at their actions.

We’re gonna win so much, you may even get tired of winning. And you’ll say, 'Please, please. It’s too much winning. We can’t take it anymore. Mr. President, it’s too much.' And I’ll say, 'No, it isn’t!' We have to keep winning!

Ah yes, who can forget that time the dem president got his initial rise in the political world because he led a movement saying the current GOP president wasn’t born in America because he had a non-white name.

Despite there being no evidence, and no real claim for it, And the party members/media couldn’t stop talking about it for a couple of years.

what is more important, winning or moral high ground? wwdjtd!

may i remind you what happened to anakin and obi wan!

or obi wan and darth maul!

I love my cheese. I got to have my cheddar.

The fact that the yearbook would publish this photo in the first place leads meto at least consider that the picture was put on his page as a prank or by accident.  Apparently it wasn’t the only extremely racist photo in the yearbook?  I mean wtf? What kind of medical school is this?

Nerdyblop wrote:

what is more important, winning or moral high ground? wwdjtd!

may i remind you what happened to anakin and obi wan!

or obi wan and darth maul!

r/PrequelMemes

My concern is that Democrats, having botched the 2016 election badly, will pursue a lose-lose path for themselves and possibly for a majority of US people. They are clearly bowing to leftist pressure within their party to move away from the center. If they run a very left leaning candidate, they will most likely lose, but if they win, it will be bad for the country, which is best represented by moderate representatives. 

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- Everyone

Didn’t the Democrats have a Klan member in the senate for 55 years or something?  

82 > 87
Simple math.

ohai wrote:

I know they are trying to project some kind of collective moral quality here, but is it really in the party’s interests to hunt their own elected members over 35 year old party photos? To me, this portrays them as radicals who put political correctness over practicality. 

A few points:

1.  I would say that it places “principles over party”, which is a good thing.  (at least in theory)

2.  The modern Democrat party is largely becoming the party of race- and gender-based identity politics.  So trying to distance a known racist from your party is probably in the best interests of the party.  

3.  This happened 35 years ago.  IMHO, a person’s merits should be evaluated based on their current character–not what they were like when they were a kid.  

4.  That said, at least they are being consistent.  They are treating their own the same way they treated Kavanaughty.  

82 > 87
Simple math.

Ah.  The truth comes out.  

WSJ wrote:

 If Mr. Northam departs, his lieutenant governor, Justin Fairfax, would become the commonwealth’s second African-American governor. 

Q:  What’s better than a Democrat governor?

A:  A black Democrat governor!!!

82 > 87
Simple math.

https://www.wsj.com/articles/virginia-lt-gov-fairfax-calls-sexual-assaul...

Now the #2 guy is being accused of sexual assault in 2004. They really brought this on themselves. 

“Visit the Water Cooler forum on Analyst Forum. It is the best forum.”
- Everyone

ohai wrote:

https://www.wsj.com/articles/virginia-lt-gov-fairfax-calls-sexual-assaul...

Now the #2 guy is being accused of sexual assault in 2004. They really brought this on themselves. 

Yeah, those damn dems and their *reads note card*  opposition to those who have been credibly accused of racism/committing sexual assault.

Is this really the thing you want to complain about? This is the thing that ruffles your feathers the most?

 

What do you mean? It’s clear that the Democratic party has opened themselves to internal issues through their previous rhetoric. This has nothing to do with other parties. You can’t just deflect issues and pretend they don’t exist. 

“Visit the Water Cooler forum on Analyst Forum. It is the best forum.”
- Everyone

#believeallwomen or not in this case? So confused!

We’re gonna win so much, you may even get tired of winning. And you’ll say, 'Please, please. It’s too much winning. We can’t take it anymore. Mr. President, it’s too much.' And I’ll say, 'No, it isn’t!' We have to keep winning!

Schopenhauer wrote:

ohai wrote:

https://www.wsj.com/articles/virginia-lt-gov-fairfax-calls-sexual-assaul...

Now the #2 guy is being accused of sexual assault in 2004. They really brought this on themselves. 

Yeah, those damn dems and their *reads note card*  opposition to those who have been credibly accused of racism/committing sexual assault.

Is this really the thing you want to complain about? This is the thing that ruffles your feathers the most?

 

I agree with Ohai, and this is a worth complaining about. Northam seems like a dope who is comfortable with casual racism, but he also seems like he has changed and evolved in positive ways.  If we destroy everyone who makes a mistake, it sends the message that people can’t learn from their mistakes, and we end up with organizations that don’t learn.

For many middle-aged voters this seems to high a bar – who at that age hasn’t done or said something they regret or is now considered unacceptable?  Many of the same pundits calling for Northam to resign are also calling for comprehensive criminal justice reform so convicted criminals can get a second chance.  

people with leadership positions should be held to a different standard than say cockroaches of society such as criminals or trust fund babies!

totally kidding trust fund babies should be allowed to do anything as it is given by divine right! their forefathers paid high taxes to give them the privilege to be anything they want to be!

I love my cheese. I got to have my cheddar.

What no one IMHO is paying attention to regarding democrats:

After Trump won the election the Democrats played all kinds of crazy games to put him down.Including his disrespect for women,racism and whatnot.They played the same tactic against all his aides and his Supreme Court appointee. THIS LED TO THE GENERAL PUBLIC UNCONSIOUSLY LOWERING THEIR MORAL EXPECTATIONS OF REPUBLICANS AND RISING THEIR EXPECTATIONS OF DEMORACTS. 

So if I am a centrist or don’t really identify with either party I will turn a blind eye if some Joe Candidate has had allegations in the past if his from republican party but will probably scrutinize the despise the same guy if he is from democratic party. The dems should have just focused on fiscal policies and such things.Everyone has dirt on them one way or another and history has proven they can’t use this dirt to bury their enemies but have to make their members resign from office if it is found on one of their own,

SamCryBaby wrote:

What no one IMHO is paying attention to regarding democrats:

After Trump won the election the Democrats played all kinds of crazy games to put him down.Including his disrespect for women,racism and whatnot.They played the same tactic against all his aides and his Supreme Court appointee. THIS LED TO THE GENERAL PUBLIC UNCONSIOUSLY LOWERING THEIR MORAL EXPECTATIONS OF REPUBLICANS AND RISING THEIR EXPECTATIONS OF DEMORACTS. 

So if I am a centrist or don’t really identify with either party I will turn a blind eye if some Joe Candidate has had allegations in the past if his from republican party but will probably scrutinize the despise the same guy if he is from democratic party. The dems should have just focused on fiscal policies and such things.Everyone has dirt on them one way or another and history has proven they can’t use this dirt to bury their enemies but have to make their members resign from office if it is found on one of their own,

One party has a leader who’s on tape talking about how he grabs women by their genitals and who thinks there are some very fine people in a group of neo-nazis.

You either are fine with this or you aren’t

Schopenhauer wrote:

SamCryBaby wrote:

What no one IMHO is paying attention to regarding democrats:

After Trump won the election the Democrats played all kinds of crazy games to put him down.Including his disrespect for women,racism and whatnot.They played the same tactic against all his aides and his Supreme Court appointee. THIS LED TO THE GENERAL PUBLIC UNCONSIOUSLY LOWERING THEIR MORAL EXPECTATIONS OF REPUBLICANS AND RISING THEIR EXPECTATIONS OF DEMORACTS. 

So if I am a centrist or don’t really identify with either party I will turn a blind eye if some Joe Candidate has had allegations in the past if his from republican party but will probably scrutinize the despise the same guy if he is from democratic party. The dems should have just focused on fiscal policies and such things.Everyone has dirt on them one way or another and history has proven they can’t use this dirt to bury their enemies but have to make their members resign from office if it is found on one of their own,

One party has a leader who’s on tape talking about how he grabs women by their genitals and who thinks there are some very fine people in a group of neo-nazis.

You either are fine with this or you aren’t

Go dye your hair blue or something.

Schopenhauer wrote:

there are some very fine people in a group of neo-nazis.

Are you saying Robert Byrd was not a fine person?  

82 > 87
Simple math.

Dude’s now hiring a private investigator to look into this.  The book was littered with Racist imagery including something on the page proceeding the governor’s page.  The school pulled the plug on this yearbook in 2013 due to continued inappropriate content.  I have no idea who this guy is, but I’m pretty sure he had nothing to do with this photo or the decision to put it on his page. If this was a Republican the right would be crying fake news and media bias. 

https://www.cnn.com/2019/02/03/politics/northams-medical-school-yearbook/index.html

SamCryBaby wrote:

Schopenhauer wrote:

SamCryBaby wrote:

What no one IMHO is paying attention to regarding democrats:

After Trump won the election the Democrats played all kinds of crazy games to put him down.Including his disrespect for women,racism and whatnot.They played the same tactic against all his aides and his Supreme Court appointee. THIS LED TO THE GENERAL PUBLIC UNCONSIOUSLY LOWERING THEIR MORAL EXPECTATIONS OF REPUBLICANS AND RISING THEIR EXPECTATIONS OF DEMORACTS. 

So if I am a centrist or don’t really identify with either party I will turn a blind eye if some Joe Candidate has had allegations in the past if his from republican party but will probably scrutinize the despise the same guy if he is from democratic party. The dems should have just focused on fiscal policies and such things.Everyone has dirt on them one way or another and history has proven they can’t use this dirt to bury their enemies but have to make their members resign from office if it is found on one of their own,

One party has a leader who’s on tape talking about how he grabs women by their genitals and who thinks there are some very fine people in a group of neo-nazis.

You either are fine with this or you aren’t

Go dye your hair blue or something.

Nothing screams ‘I’m scared of things that are different’ than using the color of hair as an insult.