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guys i know bulimia is bad. but what about chewing your food then spitting it out. why is this not a thing? kinda like wine tasting. ( i know im cultured as ****)

I love my cheese. I got to have my cheddar.

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Nerdyblop wrote:

guys i know bulimia is bad. but what about chewing your food then spitting it out. why is this not a thing? kinda like wine tasting. ( i know im cultured as ****)

That’s called cuckholding.

¯\_(ツ)_/¯ It be like that sometimes.

Nerdyblop wrote:

guys i know bulimia is bad. but what about chewing your food then spitting it out. why is this not a thing? kinda like wine tasting. ( i know im cultured as ****)

Ay mijo!!! broken heartno

“Mmmmmm, something…” - H. Simpson

Codtrawler87 wrote:

Griingo wrote:

Greenman72 wrote:

TrackSuitInvestor wrote:

It’s like people complaining that loosing weight is hard…it’s actually really easy if you have the discipline to eat healthy and work out regularly. But losing weight is challenging if you eat at McD’s and never go to the gym.

You do realize the utter stupidity of that statement, right?  

“Losing weight is easy if you burn more calories than you take in.  If you take in more than you burn, then losing weight is difficult.”  That’s kinda like saying “winning the lottery is easy if you simply pick the right numbers.  But if you don’t pick the right ones, then it becomes much more difficult.”  

Tell me more, ***********!!! 

This is why you can probably name on 1 hand the amount of people who you’ve ever known who have lost a lot of weight and kept it off whereas we all probably know an army of people who are constantly on a diet.

I feel like I’ve never met an overweight person who admits straight-up that he is fat because of stuffing his face with cake and not because of some random hormone balance bull****. 

Thanks for sharing your informed opinion mate.

Hormones do play a big part in why people can’t lose weight. Most fat people got into that position due to bad habits but once people are in that position it’s not easy to shift. Even being 10 pounds overweight reduces testosterone materially.  Insulin and leptin resistance cause low energy and increased fat storage from fewer calories.  Additionally insulin resistance causes cortisol to spike when you reduce carbs and increased cortisol is well known to increase fat storage around the midriff.

Basically, when you’re fat your whole system is totally fucked and everything is stacked against you when you try to correct it.  It’s a hugely complex issue that people try and simplify without being knowledgeable about or having personal experience of.  It’s not the same as cutting fat from a healthy starting point or shifting 5-10 pounds that were temporarily gained at Christmas.

Anyway, most of you yanks commenting probably are fat based on standards from any other country in the world bar the pacific islands.   

Griingo wrote:

Codtrawler87 wrote:

Griingo wrote:

Greenman72 wrote:

TrackSuitInvestor wrote:

It’s like people complaining that loosing weight is hard…it’s actually really easy if you have the discipline to eat healthy and work out regularly. But losing weight is challenging if you eat at McD’s and never go to the gym.

You do realize the utter stupidity of that statement, right?  

“Losing weight is easy if you burn more calories than you take in.  If you take in more than you burn, then losing weight is difficult.”  That’s kinda like saying “winning the lottery is easy if you simply pick the right numbers.  But if you don’t pick the right ones, then it becomes much more difficult.”  

Tell me more, ***********!!! 

This is why you can probably name on 1 hand the amount of people who you’ve ever known who have lost a lot of weight and kept it off whereas we all probably know an army of people who are constantly on a diet.

I feel like I’ve never met an overweight person who admits straight-up that he is fat because of stuffing his face with cake and not because of some random hormone balance bull****. 

Thanks for sharing your informed opinion mate.

Hormones do play a big part in why people can’t lose weight. Most fat people got into that position due to bad habits but once people are in that position it’s not easy to shift. Even being 10 pounds overweight reduces testosterone materially.  Insulin and leptin resistance cause low energy and increased fat storage from fewer calories.  Additionally insulin resistance causes cortisol to spike when you reduce carbs and increased cortisol is well known to increase fat storage around the midriff.

Basically, when you’re fat your whole system is totally fucked and everything is stacked against you when you try to correct it.  It’s a hugely complex issue that people try and simplify without being knowledgeable about or having personal experience of.  It’s not the same as cutting fat from a healthy starting point or shifting 5-10 pounds that were temporarily gained at Christmas.

Anyway, most of you yanks commenting probably are fat based on standards from any other country in the world bar the pacific islands.   

Still have a chip on your shoulder about the fall of the British Empire?

"When what I'm doing isn't working, that's when I'll take your criticisms." -- Me, some time ago

Griingo wrote:

Codtrawler87 wrote:

Griingo wrote:

Greenman72 wrote:

TrackSuitInvestor wrote:

It’s like people complaining that loosing weight is hard…it’s actually really easy if you have the discipline to eat healthy and work out regularly. But losing weight is challenging if you eat at McD’s and never go to the gym.

You do realize the utter stupidity of that statement, right?  

“Losing weight is easy if you burn more calories than you take in.  If you take in more than you burn, then losing weight is difficult.”  That’s kinda like saying “winning the lottery is easy if you simply pick the right numbers.  But if you don’t pick the right ones, then it becomes much more difficult.”  

Tell me more, ***********!!! 

This is why you can probably name on 1 hand the amount of people who you’ve ever known who have lost a lot of weight and kept it off whereas we all probably know an army of people who are constantly on a diet.

I feel like I’ve never met an overweight person who admits straight-up that he is fat because of stuffing his face with cake and not because of some random hormone balance bull****. 

Thanks for sharing your informed opinion mate.

Hormones do play a big part in why people can’t lose weight. Most fat people got into that position due to bad habits but once people are in that position it’s not easy to shift. Even being 10 pounds overweight reduces testosterone materially.  Insulin and leptin resistance cause low energy and increased fat storage from fewer calories.  Additionally insulin resistance causes cortisol to spike when you reduce carbs and increased cortisol is well known to increase fat storage around the midriff.

Basically, when you’re fat your whole system is totally fucked and everything is stacked against you when you try to correct it.  It’s a hugely complex issue that people try and simplify without being knowledgeable about or having personal experience of.  It’s not the same as cutting fat from a healthy starting point or shifting 5-10 pounds that were temporarily gained at Christmas.

Anyway, most of you yanks commenting probably are fat based on standards from any other country in the world bar the pacific islands.   

All I know is this: none of those who I know, who have lost weight and managed to keep it down, whine about hormones and how their bodies are working against weight loss. From the other side, almost all permanently fat people out there that I know personally, are crying that same whiny song about hormones as you are. Maybe the key to weight loss is taking responsibility of your own health instead of shifting blame? After all weight loss is not rocket science but pretty simple math. Eat less than you consume. 

If you're the first out the door, that's not called panicking

Codtrawler87 wrote:

Griingo wrote:

Codtrawler87 wrote:

Griingo wrote:

Greenman72 wrote:

TrackSuitInvestor wrote:

It’s like people complaining that loosing weight is hard…it’s actually really easy if you have the discipline to eat healthy and work out regularly. But losing weight is challenging if you eat at McD’s and never go to the gym.

You do realize the utter stupidity of that statement, right?  

“Losing weight is easy if you burn more calories than you take in.  If you take in more than you burn, then losing weight is difficult.”  That’s kinda like saying “winning the lottery is easy if you simply pick the right numbers.  But if you don’t pick the right ones, then it becomes much more difficult.”  

Tell me more, ***********!!! 

This is why you can probably name on 1 hand the amount of people who you’ve ever known who have lost a lot of weight and kept it off whereas we all probably know an army of people who are constantly on a diet.

I feel like I’ve never met an overweight person who admits straight-up that he is fat because of stuffing his face with cake and not because of some random hormone balance bull****. 

Thanks for sharing your informed opinion mate.

Hormones do play a big part in why people can’t lose weight. Most fat people got into that position due to bad habits but once people are in that position it’s not easy to shift. Even being 10 pounds overweight reduces testosterone materially.  Insulin and leptin resistance cause low energy and increased fat storage from fewer calories.  Additionally insulin resistance causes cortisol to spike when you reduce carbs and increased cortisol is well known to increase fat storage around the midriff.

Basically, when you’re fat your whole system is totally fucked and everything is stacked against you when you try to correct it.  It’s a hugely complex issue that people try and simplify without being knowledgeable about or having personal experience of.  It’s not the same as cutting fat from a healthy starting point or shifting 5-10 pounds that were temporarily gained at Christmas.

Anyway, most of you yanks commenting probably are fat based on standards from any other country in the world bar the pacific islands.   

All I know is this: none of those who I know, who have lost weight and managed to keep it down, whine about hormones and how their bodies are working against weight loss. From the other side, almost all permanently fat people out there that I know personally, are crying that same whiny song about hormones as you are. Maybe the key to weight loss is about taking responsibility of your own health instead of shifting blame? After all weight loss is not rocket science but pretty simple math. Eat less than you consume. 

Quite an emotional response and not really addressing any of the points raised.  

All I’m really doing is presenting an alternative view point to the standard trope rolled out by people with no personal experience or in-depth knowledge of the topic.  Weight loss is not rocket science nor is it simple maths.  Calories are a measure of density and a proxy for energy consumed. Basal Metabolic Rate is not an easy thing to measure and can change materially due to a number of different factors.  

From my personal experience, I went from playing rugby at a reasonably high level to sitting at a desk all day then going home and sitting at a table studying all night.  Through my own actions I got a bit fat by non-American standards but shifted it and kept it off.   Taking responsibility is the essential first step but beyond that it’s not simple and I can see why more people fail than succeed.

People want to blame everyone but themselves for overeating unhealthy food. A lot of these people are the same people who can’t come up with $500 for an emergency expense and want to blame the 1% for it while they are spending money on stupid ****.

We’re gonna win so much, you may even get tired of winning. And you’ll say, 'Please, please. It’s too much winning. We can’t take it anymore. Mr. President, it’s too much.' And I’ll say, 'No, it isn’t!' We have to keep winning!

I love my cheese. I got to have my cheddar.

Destroyer of Worlds wrote:

Griingo wrote:

Codtrawler87 wrote:

Griingo wrote:

Greenman72 wrote:

TrackSuitInvestor wrote:

It’s like people complaining that loosing weight is hard…it’s actually really easy if you have the discipline to eat healthy and work out regularly. But losing weight is challenging if you eat at McD’s and never go to the gym.

You do realize the utter stupidity of that statement, right?  

“Losing weight is easy if you burn more calories than you take in.  If you take in more than you burn, then losing weight is difficult.”  That’s kinda like saying “winning the lottery is easy if you simply pick the right numbers.  But if you don’t pick the right ones, then it becomes much more difficult.”  

Tell me more, ***********!!! 

This is why you can probably name on 1 hand the amount of people who you’ve ever known who have lost a lot of weight and kept it off whereas we all probably know an army of people who are constantly on a diet.

I feel like I’ve never met an overweight person who admits straight-up that he is fat because of stuffing his face with cake and not because of some random hormone balance bull****. 

Thanks for sharing your informed opinion mate.

Hormones do play a big part in why people can’t lose weight. Most fat people got into that position due to bad habits but once people are in that position it’s not easy to shift. Even being 10 pounds overweight reduces testosterone materially.  Insulin and leptin resistance cause low energy and increased fat storage from fewer calories.  Additionally insulin resistance causes cortisol to spike when you reduce carbs and increased cortisol is well known to increase fat storage around the midriff.

Basically, when you’re fat your whole system is totally fucked and everything is stacked against you when you try to correct it.  It’s a hugely complex issue that people try and simplify without being knowledgeable about or having personal experience of.  It’s not the same as cutting fat from a healthy starting point or shifting 5-10 pounds that were temporarily gained at Christmas.

Anyway, most of you yanks commenting probably are fat based on standards from any other country in the world bar the pacific islands.   

Still have a chip on your shoulder about the fall of the British Empire?

I regularly cry myself to sleep about the fall of the British Empire.  

You’ve got to admit that the US has a huge problem with obesity and swathes of the country have horrifically unhealthy diets, even a lot of people who aren’t fat have terrible diets.   I won’t get started on how you all can’t seem to take polite criticism. 

Griingo wrote:

I regularly cry myself to sleep about the fall of the British Empire.  

I friggin knew it!

#FreeCVM #FreeTurd #2007-2017

Griingo wrote:

You’ve got to admit that the US has a huge problem with obesity and swathes of the country have horrifically unhealthy diets, even a lot of people who aren’t fat have terrible diets.   I won’t get started on how you all can’t seem to take polite criticism. 

I don’t disagree with your first point. As for your second, I would implore you not to judge a sample by the population. Some of us are more objective with reality and globally cosmopolitan. 

"When what I'm doing isn't working, that's when I'll take your criticisms." -- Me, some time ago

Hold up - I’m pretty sure Britain surpassed America for number of overweight/obese people - in percentage terms

trying to find research now to support this…

edit: looks like I was wrong. Looks like the “rates” are rising faster than they are in America. Which means, we’ve stagnated, and y’all are Fat’nating!

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2017/11/10/britain-sixth-fattest-nation-world-rising-faster-united-states/

¯\_(ツ)_/¯ It be like that sometimes.

CEO10K-DAY wrote:

Hold up - I’m pretty sure Britain surpassed America for number of overweight/obese people - in percentage terms

trying to find research now to support this…

edit: looks like I was wrong. Looks like the “rates” are rising faster than they are in America. Which means, we’ve stagnated, and y’all are Fat’nating!

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2017/11/10/britain-sixth-fattest-nation-world-rising-faster-united-states/

Conditional Convergence of Obesity – like in all things, the USA has been the leader for the past century.

I love my cheese. I got to have my cheddar.

Nerdyblop wrote:

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=ZxpMk3pvz44

we the illest in here!!!!

Ahem… And I quote:

“Came up made a millie - spent it on a rollie”

¯\_(ツ)_/¯ It be like that sometimes.

They seem nice… and ill.

“Mmmmmm, something…” - H. Simpson

I’m not necessarily agreeing nor disagreeing with anybody here.  But I do have a legitimate question.  Not trying to be antagonistic (although I know it will come across that way).  

According to most (if not all) of you guys, alcoholism is a disease.  It is a physical and mental illness.  It is at least partially due to genetic factors.  People who are alcohol addicts are people to be sympathized with and offered medical help.  

Compulsive gambling is also a disease.  It is an addiction similar to chemical addiction.  It is both physical and mental. It has high comorbidity with other social disorders, such as substance abuse or anxiety.  People who have a gambling problem need sympathy and medical help to overcome their addiction.  

Transgenderism, however, is not a disease nor a mental illness.  It is perfectly normal for a person to “identify” as a gender that is opposite from their sex.  They will even go so far as to take hormone therapy, electrolysis, or “voice feminization” in order to change their appearance.  Even though transgender people historically have much higher rates of suicide (as high as 400% higher) or other diagnosable mental illness, this is considered to be normal.  And to discriminate or otherwise speak ill (even in a private setting) about transgender people is akin to committing a hate crime.  

Fat people?  F.ck ‘em.  It’s purely a matter of calories in and and calories out.  They’re a bunch of undisciplined fata$$es who blame society and biology for what is essentially a matter of self control.  They deserve to be made fun of and laughed at, because they can very easily do something about being fat.  They neither need nor deserve any sympathy, because they’re disgusting pieces of sh!t.

——————-

Can anybody explain why sugar addiction or other food addiction is (or should be) different from the others?  

82 > 87
Simple math.

I agree with you, for the morbidly obese (think 100-200+ pounds overweight) there is a legitimate addiction to food, and there should be support to eating better. But the people that are being made fun of are those who are overweight and refuse to take personal responsibility for that, when it’s just because they’re eating a lot. Kind of like how we make fun of college kids getting drunk 4 days a week or drunken sorrority girls, but not actual alcoholics.

Gender dysphoria is kind of a weird one that isn’t really understood yet. But in my liberal bubble, I think most people agree that it’s not a thing people flippantly choose to be. Being trans means you’re subjecting yourself to a whole lot of problems and isn’t akin to getting a new haircut. The only way someone would start taking hormones, spending tens of thousands of dollars, and basically subjecting themselves to a lifetime of work is because they’re legitimately disconnected between who they are and what they look like. If they identify as something else, let them do it, it isn’t hurting anyone to see a manly looking person with long hair and make-up. Discrimination or hate speech should be condemned against these people since as you said, there is a huge correlation between trans and being in poverty and committing suicide.

But we also make fun of the people who smoke weed all day (and gradually ruin their life) or the people who are desperate/dumb enough to sign up for multi-level marketing schemes. So it’s possible we’re all just *******s who like to draw distinctions based on where we please.

Can you imagine if they had a Biggest Loser corollary for alcoholics? It would be the saddest show ever.

I view food addiction as similar to drugs, alcohol or smoking, and people should do what they need to in order to overcome it. The problem I see is that some segments of society have thrown in the towel and just accepted unhealthy food addiction as normal. That is what many people do not like about the obesity epidemic: it has been normalized. Can you imagine if everyone just said it is perfectly normal and forgivable to be an alcoholic or drug addict who dies young leaving behind a family? It is madness.

Healthy good, unhealthy bad. I think that is basically it. It’s not always easy to be healthy, but that doesn’t mean we should just embrace unhealthy habits and the easiest path. I know people that literally take pride (probably false pride) in their lack of health, likely to defend their ego against the fact that they’ve given up. It’s just weak and isn’t a model that should be emulated. It’s like saying “look at me, I get drunk all the time so I can’t pick up my kids from school.”

you basically need to come from a target school pedigree/work at prestigious firm in the US/have a really good connection.

- AF hivemind

I would argue that food addiction is harder to overcome (and therefore more forgiveable) than most other types–because we HAVE TO eat to stay alive.  You don’t have to drink beer, or smoke weed, or gamble, or shoot heroin, or transgender yourself.  But you have to eat. 

Of course, this doesn’t mean you have to eat a whole pizza and down a gallon of soda.  But fast food (the unhealthiest food there is) is cheaper, faster, and easier to clean up than healthy food.  I think this contributes to the obesity problem.  If there were a cheap, easy, fast, healthy food, then I would be all over it.  But no such thing exists.  

82 > 87
Simple math.

And yes, this is somewhat of a sensitive topic for me personally.  Like I’ve mentioned before, I am about 120 pounds overweight.  Not proud of it–just being honest.  

If I were an alcoholic, you guys would feel sorry for me and say, “You have a genetic predisposition to it.  It’s a disease.  It’s not your fault.  You need help controlling it.”  

If I were trans, you’d say “You have a genetic predisposition to it.  Your mind is disconnected from your body.  It’s not your fault.  It’s outside of your control.”  

But since I’m *merely* obese, you say, “You’re a lazy piece of sh!t who needs to learn some self control.  Losing weight is a simple matter of consuming less calories.  It has nothing to do with genes or addiction.  You could control it, but you choose not to.”  

Again, I’m not saying that either attitude is necessarily right or wrong, but why the difference?  

82 > 87
Simple math.

Greenman72 wrote:

And yes, this is somewhat of a sensitive topic for me personally.  Like I’ve mentioned before, I am about 120 pounds overweight.  Not proud of it–just being honest.  

If I were an alcoholic, you guys would feel sorry for me and say, “You have a genetic predisposition to it.  It’s a disease.  It’s not your fault.  You need help controlling it.”  

If I were trans, you’d say “You have a genetic predisposition to it.  Your mind is disconnected from your body.  It’s not your fault.  It’s outside of your control.”  

But since I’m *merely* obese, you say, “You’re a lazy piece of sh!t who needs to learn some self control.  Losing weight is a simple matter of consuming less calories.  It has nothing to do with genes or addiction.  You could control it, but you choose not to.”  

Again, I’m not saying that either attitude is necessarily right or wrong, but why the difference?  

i think it comes down to the prevalence of obesity. 20-25% of americans are obese, 50-60% are overweight. Sure, food addiction is a reason for some of those cases, but I would argue that most of the time the question is about good habits vs. bad habits. 

If you're the first out the door, that's not called panicking

IMO transgenderism is 100% a disease.

¯\_(ツ)_/¯ It be like that sometimes.

sorry greenie!!! you’ll get there!! its really more about the diet!

1. avoid carbs

2. stop drinkign soda

3. walk/run 5miles a day.

the key is if you can do it for a month. your body will adopt to lower body weight.

anyways. i think they’re all diseases! i think it all can be controllws. my most downvoted post in reddit was when i suggested to a depressed dude to just reconcile with the fam by pretending to be straight. lol i got a lot of hate!!!

I love my cheese. I got to have my cheddar.

I hear you Greenman.  There needs to be a middle ground of accountability and real empathy for all of these things (not accountability for transgender, just not addressing that this convo).  It’s admirable when people lose the weight or overcome the addiction and can be frustrating to watch someone that doesn’t.  As always its a mix as with most things, it’s not correct to generalize accurately for all cases, there are fat people and alcoholics that legitimately don’t care and deadbeats, they’re just POS’s.  But for the majority, I don’t think that’s the case at all.  We also need to recognize that we’ve built an unhealthy society and economic structure that basically sets a trap for the majority of people then the massive corporate structure tries to play “who me?” when we struggle with carb addiction, unhealthy food, cigarettes, alcohol (the US has very unhealthy views of drinking) or opiods. Some of the responsibility needs to be shifted to create change in the system.  

Anyhow, things are slowly becoming very much impossible grey areas for me anymore.  I used to put more blame on overweight people but after the second kid, I had to lose like 30 pounds over about six weeks and I come from a very athletic background and it was a real educational experience about how impossibly difficult it can feel for a lot of people to try to tackle weight loss.  Turns out averaging 3-4 hours a night for sleep for about 10 months between coursework, having a second new child, balancing the rest of the family and work and making up for it by chugging coffee and binge eating sugar destroys your health.  Anyhow, I think some of the fat blaming it comes from frustration, some of it from naivity of youth.

I think most importantly I’ve come to appreciate in life that it’s a defense mechanism for people to push blame.  Whether its overweight people blaming other things a disproportionate amount or fit people around them disproportionately blaming the over weight person for their struggles.  I think walking around with empathy is emotionally taxing and accepting the unfairness of life causes a sort of emotional recoil.

#FreeCVM #FreeTurd #2007-2017

i think if we put a fat tax. fat people will go away. kinda like a carbon tax. or alcohol tax. or smoking tax. or tariff tax? anyways i think we need to come up with more taxes to fix our deficit/debt.

I love my cheese. I got to have my cheddar.

Anyhow, I hope you get there.  You get one life, being fat is emotionally and physically uncomfortable and the only way out is going to be in your hands.  Might have to make the grill veggies only and remember a cardio weight regimen is key.  Every time I got depressed by how hard running even short distances or doing a workout was (vs how it used to be), I just told myself that that was exactly why I needed to be doing it.

#FreeCVM #FreeTurd #2007-2017

Greenman72 wrote:

And yes, this is somewhat of a sensitive topic for me personally.  Like I’ve mentioned before, I am about 120 pounds overweight.  Not proud of it–just being honest.    

greenman, I make it a point to be absurdly blunt, and up front with people in life (regardless of the consequences), and I will not waiver on that now simply because this is a personal issue for you (please look passed my millennial status and otherwise trollish attitude and consider what I’m about to say at heart).

but we’re not the ones you need to seek empathy from on this - were a bunch of randos on the internet mainly - the person you need to be honest with is yourself. You’re the only one who can judge your effort and discipline on sticking to a diet, or workout - hell I don’t even like the word diet. Fitness is a lifestyle, it’s not temporary. You either take it ridiculously serious or don’t even try at all. Are you doing all you can do? Judge that for yourself. If after the end of the day you can look back and say to yourself “yeah, every time I passed the receptionist desk I definitely grabbed a handful of chocolate”, then you need to quit doing that, reengage your routine, (HONESTLY REENGAGE) and then reevaluate your progress after an appropriate length of time. . 

Im sure now you see what I’m getting at right? Is that, people often complain about their progress and problems all the meanwhile they’re doing less than all they can possibly do. That’s what we make fun of. No one would ever look at you and rebuff you for your physical appearance.

could you imagine if I spent a mere 20 minutes a day studying for the CFA Exams, and meanwhile complained about how frustratingly difficult it is? You’d laugh me out the door. Well, fitness is no different.

¯\_(ツ)_/¯ It be like that sometimes.