You have problems distinguishing between facts and opinions mon ami. I do hope you were wearing loose undies today, the bunching must be painful.
SuperiorReturn Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > “Without American production the United Nations > could never have won the war.” > -Joseph Stalin, Tehran Conference: 1943 > > What is the meaning and purpose of this quote in > your signature? It spawned after an argument regarding the US involvement in WWII victory vs that of Russia. Some Russians were saying the US’s involvement was non-vital and from a historic military perspective they actually have some grounds for that. However, I used the quote to point out that if you take into account our manufacturing contribution we were arguably the MVP of WWII. The fact that Stalin himself said it in my mind made it even more of a key point. To roughly summarize the Russian point and put D-day into perspective, between 4,000 and 9,000 German casualties and 10,000 Allied casualties were incurred (casualties includes wounded missing and captured). The Eastern front (often referred to as the “War of Extermination”) had nearly 30 million dead (most civilians), involved more land combat than all other theaters combined. More than 5 million German (axis) soldiers were killed. The combined damage consisted of complete or partial destruction of 1,710 cities and towns, 70,000 villages/hamlets, 2,508 church buildings, 31,850 industrial establishments, 40,000 miles of railroad, 4100 railroad stations, 40,000 hospitals, 84,000 schools, and 43,000 public libraries. Seven million horses, and 17 million sheep and goats were also slaughtered or driven off.
"What is the meaning and purpose of this quote in your signature? " Sooo, to answer SuperiorReturn’s question, is the answer ‘spark discussion on a message board to show how much Black Swan knows about war’? I will say it has been interesting and your knowledge is impressive.
Muddahudda Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > Lets not > even forget the atom bombs were needed to end it > all will we. uhhhh, We dropped the A-Bomb on the Japanese after the Germans surrendered. Muddahudda history: “Did we give up after the Germans bombed Pearl Harbor?”
Black Swan Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > To roughly summarize the Russian point and put > D-day into perspective, between 4,000 and 9,000 > German casualties and 10,000 Allied casualties > were incurred (casualties includes wounded missing > and captured). > > The Eastern front (often referred to as the “War > of Extermination”) had nearly 30 million dead > (most civilians), involved more land combat than > all other theaters combined. More than 5 million > German (axis) soldiers were killed. The combined > damage consisted of complete or partial > destruction of 1,710 cities and towns, 70,000 > villages/hamlets, 2,508 church buildings, 31,850 > industrial establishments, 40,000 miles of > railroad, 4100 railroad stations, 40,000 > hospitals, 84,000 schools, and 43,000 public > libraries. Seven million horses, and 17 million > sheep and goats were also slaughtered or driven > off. do you have a book you carry around with all those numbers or do you just pull them from the back of your eyelids?
I remember the general facts and where I read them and in a pinch a I dig up comparable stats from the web.
Second serious thread derailed. Im cursed.
ASSet_MANagement Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > Second serious thread derailed. > > Im cursed. Karma! (Or as we like to say in the biz, reversion.)
ASSet_MANagement Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > Second serious thread derailed. > > Im cursed. LOL, that actually popped into my head as I replied to him, I believe I was involved in the last derailment as well.
ASSet_MANagement Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > Second serious thread derailed. > > Im cursed. If you can kindly put #serious thread# in the subject line for the next proper post, we’ll do our best to derail it for you again… Bottom line: Yes, a bit intense for a HF OPS role