Teabaggers are racists dressed up in political clothing. Google Mark Williams, BO monkey pictures, etc. They rebranded, which the RNC is top notch at doing, and to distance themselves from the overspending, CIA agent outing, Justice dept politicizing, EPA, FEMA and SEC castrating, wrong war mongering, 8 years of GWB. With 20% approval ratings, they needed to do something to distance themselves from their mess because even lifelong Republicans were leaving the tent after that chaos. Then 2010 brought us Sharron Angle, Christine O’Donnell, and Sarah Palin. Who play to the victimized bible thumping loyal and literally threaten the thinking, reasoning establishment of government. Trade a chicken for a doctors visit? Im not a witch? I read all them newspapers? These people shouldnt be allowed to teach elementary school much less hold office. And Weepy Glenn Beck, whose most recent human moment was comparing the murdered children in Norwegian school massacre to Hitler youth. Good job Teabagger. Dick Armey, Freedom Works Teabaggers was the House Majority Leader for the Republicans in the 90s. And now this PAC is Teaparty and not Republican? This is all just a marketing tactic that works so well for the sheeple that make up the American public. Just like if you blame Barney Frank and Chris Dodd for the housing mess, though they had no power to lead their committees until 2007 when everyone agrees the first cracks of the financial crisis were starting to show. These guys are crazy and their followers are willful ignorants because their political compass was wrecked. So instead of admitting their mistake, they rebrand, reload, reprogram. Watch Inside Job that won the 2010 Oscar for best documentary to see some real knowledge. Its all about compromise, and this POTUS and Congress are both doing a sh!tty job of getting us anywhere. And anyone stupid enough to call themselves Teaparty need to put on their tinfoil hat and worry about the great Kenyan Conspiracy to install a leftist POTUS who keeps caving to Republican demands on all of his agenda items.
marcus is back^
calcfa2011 Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > Teabaggers are racists dressed up in political > clothing. Google Mark Williams, BO monkey > pictures, etc. They rebranded, which the RNC is > top notch at doing, and to distance themselves > from the overspending, CIA agent outing, Justice > dept politicizing, EPA, FEMA and SEC castrating, > wrong war mongering, 8 years of GWB. With 20% > approval ratings, they needed to do something to > distance themselves from their mess because even > lifelong Republicans were leaving the tent after > that chaos. > > Then 2010 brought us Sharron Angle, Christine > O’Donnell, and Sarah Palin. Who play to the > victimized bible thumping loyal and literally > threaten the thinking, reasoning establishment of > government. Trade a chicken for a doctors visit? > Im not a witch? I read all them newspapers? These > people shouldnt be allowed to teach elementary > school much less hold office. > > And Weepy Glenn Beck, whose most recent human > moment was comparing the murdered children in > Norwegian school massacre to Hitler youth. Good > job Teabagger. > > Dick Armey, Freedom Works Teabaggers was the House > Majority Leader for the Republicans in the 90s. > And now this PAC is Teaparty and not Republican? > > This is all just a marketing tactic that works so > well for the sheeple that make up the American > public. Just like if you blame Barney Frank and > Chris Dodd for the housing mess, though they had > no power to lead their committees until 2007 when > everyone agrees the first cracks of the financial > crisis were starting to show. > > These guys are crazy and their followers are > willful ignorants because their political compass > was wrecked. So instead of admitting their > mistake, they rebrand, reload, reprogram. > > Watch Inside Job that won the 2010 Oscar for best > documentary to see some real knowledge. Its all > about compromise, and this POTUS and Congress are > both doing a sh!tty job of getting us anywhere. > And anyone stupid enough to call themselves > Teaparty need to put on their tinfoil hat and > worry about the great Kenyan Conspiracy to install > a leftist POTUS who keeps caving to Republican > demands on all of his agenda items. Wish more people could see, understand, and accept this.
Why do Americans think everything is socialism? Public health care = socialism welfare plan of any kind = socialism progressive tax brackets = socialism raising capital gains taxes = socialism Seems like the only thing that isn’t socialism is trickle-down economics
Please explain how those concepts are not socialistic?
I wish I could auction off my citizenship sometimes.
so·cial·ism n. 1. Any of various theories or systems of social organization in which the means of producing and distributing goods is owned collectively or by a centralized government that often plans and controls the economy. 2. The stage in Marxist-Leninist theory intermediate between capitalism and communism, in which collective ownership of the economy under the dictatorship of the proletariat has not yet been successfully achieved. None of those things has anything to do with the government owning all means of production. They are not even remotely close to socialism.
I quit. You guys have gone full retard on these “debates”… you know you’re not supposed to go full retard.
Don’t let the door hit your @ss on the way out
magicskyfairy Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > so·cial·ism > n. > 1. Any of various theories or systems of social > organization in which the means of producing and > distributing goods is owned collectively or by a > centralized government that often plans and > controls the economy. > 2. The stage in Marxist-Leninist theory > intermediate between capitalism and communism, in > which collective ownership of the economy under > the dictatorship of the proletariat has not yet > been successfully achieved. > > None of those things has anything to do with the > government owning all means of production. They > are not even remotely close to socialism. Look at definition 2.
Black Swan Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > magicskyfairy Wrote: > -------------------------------------------------- > ----- > > so·cial·ism > > n. > > 1. Any of various theories or systems of social > > organization in which the means of producing > and > > distributing goods is owned collectively or by > a > > centralized government that often plans and > > controls the economy. > > 2. The stage in Marxist-Leninist theory > > intermediate between capitalism and communism, > in > > which collective ownership of the economy under > > the dictatorship of the proletariat has not yet > > been successfully achieved. > > > > None of those things has anything to do with > the > > government owning all means of production. They > > are not even remotely close to socialism. > > > Look at definition 2. what about it?
It’s the slippery slope argument. If a public utility provides you water, or you use a government subsidized road, poof! Next thing they are going to do is arrest you in the middle of the night and hold you without due process of law.
I have yet to see a slippery slope argument that I didn’t think was retarded.
Yet magically enough, government subsidies for Ag isn’t “socialist”.
calcfa2011 Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > Watch Inside Job that won the 2010 Oscar for best > documentary to see some real knowledge. If you seriously believed the message that this documentary spouted, why the heck are you on this board? For two hours, I pretty much heard that anybody and everything related to finance was the DEVIL!
bchadwick Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > It’s the slippery slope argument. If a public > utility provides you water, or you use a > government subsidized road, poof! Next thing they > are going to do is arrest you in the middle of the > night and hold you without due process of law. come on, that only happens if you’re darker then the outside border of this forum.
MCalamari Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > calcfa2011 Wrote: > -------------------------------------------------- > ----- > > Watch Inside Job that won the 2010 Oscar for > best > > documentary to see some real knowledge. > > If you seriously believed the message that this > documentary spouted, why the heck are you on this > board? For two hours, I pretty much heard that > anybody and everything related to finance was the > DEVIL! Then your comment implies that if you dont agree with individuals using their credentials to distort the facts and even reverse them you should refrain from posting on this board? Yes you are a genius and I cower underneath the glow of your wisdom. When you hear PhDs literally stumble over a journalist asking them if they actually MISQUOTED the title of their own working paper, and they brush it off to bad grammar? I have been in grad school, and claiming a literal fabrication of the truth on your CV is a typo that you yourself posted, is a f’ing joke and slap in the face to all grad students who passed the 5th grade and learned to spell. Denial of the problem is exactly what is wrong with our country and why we will be a has been civilization. The fact that politicians still argue for the laffer curve and trickle down economics shows just how stupid our country is. The fact that the deficit has 2 sides has escaped those folks whose family tree has no branches. Oh and by the way, that dumbsh!t claim that raising taxes hurts “job creators” is a joke too. I know plenty of those “job creators” otherwise knows as business owners. And not one of them has said that they won’t hire another employee because they are paying 39% vs 35% on their income because guess what, $4000 cant get a full time employee. Lets face it guys, those of you who are still RNC loyalists because you were raised that way and told they are the good guys instead of those lazy Democrats, are either willfully ignorant or stand to inherit money that you want shielded from death taxes. The anti climate change, pro religion, anti muslim, anti gay marriage, anti birth control pill (see Solow growth model) we had nothing to do with the deficit because we cut taxes or debt because we attacked the wrong country party is still the same party no matter how much teabagging you try to do to get the taste out of your mouth.
^what a bunch of muddle. I personally know a good handful of CEOs/CFOs that won’t hire because of potential increases in taxes and uncertain/more stringent regulations (except in legal, that area is doing swimmingly). Claiming that people are RNC loyalists just because they were brought up that way seems to just be a little bit of stretch doesn’t it? I could say the same that you are just a brainwashed bleeding heart liberal. This kind of rapport doesn’t help anyone. Is it any wonder why we waited to the last minute with the deficit with this kind of toxic garble spewing around. You are quick to make sweeping assumptions and have no issue with lumping those who have a different viewpoint from your own into one giant group. Seriously do you even read what your are writing? If anyone is in denial it appears to be you. You seem to have just as much pent up rage as the regular tea bagger and acting just as stupid…
Speaking of socialism, how about the welfare queens in defense and healthcare? I sure hope this is triggered… Debt-limit deal triggers lobbying campaign from health-care and defense industries http://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/debt-limit-deal-triggers-lobbying-campaign-from-health-care-and-defense-industries/2011/08/03/gIQAIWdjsI_story.html?hpid=z1
calcfa2011 Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > When you hear PhDs literally stumble over > a journalist asking them if they actually > MISQUOTED the title of their own working paper, > and they brush it off to bad grammar? I have been > in grad school, and claiming a literal fabrication > of the truth on your CV is a typo that you > yourself posted, is a f’ing joke and slap in the > face to all grad students who passed the 5th grade > and learned to spell. You didn’t sense ANY bias while watching that movie? The interviewer was clearly attacking all of the interviewees that had even a shred of decision power, most notably Fred Mishkin, who clearly made a mistake of even showing up. The poor bastard played such a small and indirect part in the grand scheme of things, but according to the movie, he might as well have been the mastermind behind everything. I’m sure many of us have been in a hostile interview room where we ended up saying something we didn’t mean, but thankfully, it didn’t get recorded, edited out of context, and repeatedly shown to the world. Nobody is claiming that the financial industry did not have it’s faults, but demonizing a few select groups (esp with the drug/prostitution part) is hardly an objectively view of the 2008 crisis.