S2000 is right!
Now please stop deleting my threads! I found God.
Your threads have been disappearing?
Yes… this one just diappeared a minute after I made it.
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Seems that you have found God, and He has been deleting your threads.
Was this another one of your “Are these the same thing” threads?
he’s right. I saw the thread and then it just vanished. I remembered because he used the term ''antipodes" and I had to look it up because I hadnt heard of it before.
Is atheism a religion?
I would define religion as a worldview rooted in faith over reason.
It is imprtant to define whether atheism is a relgion. If it is not , then it must be a belief system rooted in reason ( living life by the scientific method). The atheist can be seen less as rejector of God, than as a rejector of blind faith. The presumed fundamental part of the atheist, not beliving in God, is symptom rather than defining characteristic of an atheist.
My point is this… atheist don’t have proove or disprove ANYTHING. They only need to make a decision about God guided by the evidence that is available. Under the worldview of science and reason, NOTHING is ever proven for certain. The whole point is that as new information and observation are collected, the old theorems are maleable. Old “proven things” are disproved all the time because new information is discovered… That is the strength and power of science.
The thought experiment would be this: If evidence that has been proven valid by repeatable observations under the scientific method were to show the existence of God, would the atheist then belive in God?
…if yes, atheism is NOT a religion
…if no, atheism IS a religion
Athiesm is not a religion. Even Gallop polls separate these distinctly different categories. a) Religious
b) Not religious c) Athiest d) I don’t know
GLOBAL INDEX OF RELIGIOSITY AND ATHEISM (Guideline) Press Release
Yeah, was it purposely deleted or due to technical issues or due to God?
[True] atheists believe that God doesn’t exist; that’s a positive statement that carries with it a burden of proof.
What you’re describing is agnosticism: lack of belief either way; agnostics don’t have a burden of proof.
^^ ok, but since there is not commonly recognized and repeatable proof of the non existance of God(sorry to bring up THAT can of worms again), atheists are in the same boat as any other religion in that their belief system is based in faith! ick!
So the agnostic person is just waiting for further information to make a call either way (god, yes? no?). They just say “don’t know, not enough information” … how humanist of them.
Bingo!
Every bit as much faith as the most ardent Christian, Muslim, Jew, . . . .
The most common agnostic position that I’ve seen is that they do not know whether God exists or not. Some go so far as to say that we cannot know.
Guess what: that latter group has made a positive statement, which carries with a burden of proof: how do they know that we cannot know?
Empiricists.
^editied my comment while you were posting, but should have kept it… great commentary. thanks!
My pleasure.
So in summary, eight pages of Occam’s razor violations, trying to act like it is the smart people’s burden to prove some nonsense doesn’t exist. Sorry, nobody cares what you believe, but stop trying to convince us.
Occam’s razor isn’t a theorem.
And it’s not the smart people’s burden to prove that something doesn’t exist; it’s the atheists burden.
But, then again, nobody cares what your smug, condescending self believes. Mature people can admit that they might be wrong.
I don’t know about that, you seem to have a lot emotionally invested in this battle. Wonder why.
Your perception is skewed.
This is entertainment for me, not emotional investment. Something to break up the boredom of grading quizzes and creating PowerPoint slides.
Sorry to burst your bubble.
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