Beauty Premium, men and women

[Black_Swan]

Back in my dating days I tried the online thing briefly and while all girls expressed a strong height preference, it was the shortest girls (5’4 or so) that were the most vocal in only wanting to date 6 ft plus guys.

[itera]

@emichan

Had a tallish female friend in college tell me that it’s unfair that I would date a tall guy (6’6) as I am so short (5’2) and that I should leave those for taller women like her (5’10ish?)

The conclusion I guess is that women don’t really prefer tall men, just men who are tall-er. Then again, I don’t often meet men who are shorter than I am.

Also, if you;re short, I think you can more than make up for it by having broad shoulders ie rugby players.

maybe it’s a genetic thing, where subconsciously girls are attracted to taller because offspring would have that trait

[ohai]

So far, we have heard accounts of tall girls wanting to date tall men, and also short girls wanting to date tall men. So I guess it helps to be tall if you are a man.

I don’t think CvM has trouble “laying his pipe”, but he is into a certain kind of woman.

[emichan]

@itera

@emichan

Had a tallish female friend in college tell me that it’s unfair that I would date a tall guy (6’6) as I am so short (5’2) and that I should leave those for taller women like her (5’10ish?)

The conclusion I guess is that women don’t really prefer tall men, just men who are tall-er. Then again, I don’t often meet men who are shorter than I am.

Also, if you;re short, I think you can more than make up for it by having broad shoulders ie rugby players.

maybe it’s a genetic thing, where subconsciously girls are attracted to taller because offspring would have that trait

Hm that doesn’t explain why it’s an attractive trait though. All else equal, taller > shorter but tall/skinny vs short/broad? Hard to say without seeing other factors. Maybe its subconscious strong caveman=good hunter thing (though then why do men always want skinny-er girls. Hips=safe childbirth am I right. Or is it skinny=doesn’t eat much=cheap date? Maybe even cavemen were cheap jerks).

[Sweep_the_Leg]

@ohai

I don’t think CvM has trouble “laying his pipe”, but he is into a certain kind of woman.

Yes, the kind that “robs” him when they’re done.

[Matt_Likes_Analysis]

men are naturally oppressive/aggressive. women are naturally defensive/passive. female height preference results in more satisfaction for both parties. the man wants to “own” his woman and “dominate” her while the woman also enjoys this. see: 50 shades of gray. it’s a $exual thing.

[Matt_Likes_Analysis]

^ in modern day, the taller you are the more money you make, on average, so there is good reason why women prefer tall men. also, in men, taller usually = skinnier and healthier which most women prefer when compared to obese and lazy.

[krnyc2008]

I like guys only slighter taller than me. It gives me more a sense of partner. I wouldn’t discriminate against tall guys, but they kind of make me feel childish.

[igor555]

@Sweep_the_Leg

@ohai

I don’t think CvM has trouble “laying his pipe”, but he is into a certain kind of woman.

Yes, the kind that “robs” him when they’re done.

“i dont pay them for sex, i pay them to leave”

~cVm

[former_trader]

@ohai

@Palantir

George Clooney is a rare, and therefore poor example. Most men, high value or otherwise are more likely to be George Costanza rather than George Clooney. Few men age really well.

I would also guess that men who remain single until late 30s or early 40s maintain their appearances better than married men. First of all, the single men have more incentive to be attractive, since they are still looking to pick up women. Second, single men have fewer family related time and money commitments than married men. Not only do the single men have more time to exercise, but they have more money to spend on clothing, cars, and other showy things.

This is absolutely true.

[former_trader]

@bchad

My best friend from childhood is unusualy short: 5’3" or something like that, and he was immensely frustrated by how many women would never consider him because he was short (not quite sure how he established that being short was the reason, but it did seem very plausible).

My cousin is a very tall woman, six feet tall, and says she really wants a man to be taller than her (not necessarily than taller than her in heels). It seems to limit her dating pool immensely. Not sure why it’s so important to her, but she says she has a hard time being attracted to men more than about 1 inch shorter than her.

So yeah, tall/short seems to be a major physical criterion.

There’s also an interesting book called “Self Made Man,” about a lesbian who lived for a year as a man and did a bunch of things as a man (Bowling, Dating, Door-to-door sales, etc.), and it was really interesting to read (though I technically didn’t read it: I did the audiobook version).

She said that dating was hands-down the most humiliating experience she had while living as a man. She said that she had a dating policy that if things looked like they were headed deeper on the third date, she would come clean about who she was (i.e. a woman) and then decide as two adults about whether anything should continue.

One interesting thing that she noted was that - although all of the women were shocked at the deception once they learned about it - all but one of those who got to date 3 did end up sleeping with her. She said that the last one “just couldn’t get over the fact that she would never be 200 pounds and able to throw her up against the wall while ravishing her.”

Height in a partner is as important to women as weight is to men. In other words, women are more likely to discriminate by height and men by weight.