Chinese Astrology...

Us are too smart to fall for that stuff.

I think for most people taking the CFA… they want to be rich than be smart.

If i visit 10 different fortune tellers who use the same technique, will I receive the same reading at each one, every single time? And who trains them? do they have an institute like CFA?

^ Wouldn’t there be a PCP investigation if all 10 had the same answer?

Did your Chinese friend tell you this?

From my knowledge of Chinese horoscopes, when looking at a person’s horoscope chart, there are indicative stars and star arrangements (well, not sure if I call it right) that show us “this guy is capable of learning Chinese horoscopes and could be a good fortune teller”. I don’t mean to say anything about “special power” here. I mean it’s a signal that tells us something like “NANA’s horoscope chart indicates she would be an outstanding doctor”.

wonder what you guys think of palm readers. doubt there’s anything statistical with that practice.

Chinese horoscopes have many variations so I don’t think they will give you the same reading. Put it simple: different “rules” will produce different charts/interpretations/readings for the same date of birth and time (sounds like GAAP vs. IFRS?).

And even if those 10 guys use the same techniques/same rules, the outcome could be different if their background/knowledge/point of views/experience are different. This is not 1+1 = 2; instead, it’s combinations of many elements. Do you think two people who were born at the same time (even at the same location) would have the same events in life? I don’t.

I kind of wish they have a school for it.

But you know it’s like Chinese medicine, it’s not accepted as a scientic practice until recently. We LIKE to think our sciences today can explain everything but time and again, we prove ourselves wrong.

I am not saying astrology is “scientic” but it’s rather a history patter, and if you believe in “history repeats itself” then you are more likely to accept this theory.

As for what you said, in theory, yes, but everyone has different interpretation, so even if the book says the same word or phrase, it’s unlikely that everyone will have the same interpretation or the receiver may be perceiving it differently.

It’s like if you talk to 10 CFA charterholder, are they going to give you the same analysis on one company?

Unlikely!

There are some facts they can spot, and in extreme cases, all 10 may agree, but most of the time people have their own interpretation.

Well i don’t know if it’s going to so specific, but let’s say thye can say that you are better off with people/ face-to-face occupations than an office job, or they can say certain industries would be better for you in terms of potential.

Chinese medicine is not accepted science. Dr. Oz is not a scientist, and lots of that stuff is pure folklore.

We’ve come so far since the enlightenment to give credit to all this hocus pocus.

And believing in Jesus and virgin Mary is accepted as science?

(only making this comment because you put Vatican City as where you came from ^_^)

dr oz is the bigget scam on tv

Never heard of Dr. Christ in any of my books in school. Maybe I’ve been cheated all my life. Damn professors.

Last time I visited Asia, I’d run into these fortune tellers charging 10 bucks to play with cards, astrology, palm lines, and facial structures. imo it’s a mix of art (no standardized metric available for judgment), science (like cooking), and religion (faith-dependent).

If you want to learn about cold reading, you could do a lot worse than talking to a magician (and, in particular, to a mentalist).

Initially I hated those demonstrations of “what’s going on in your body,” because they are so innacurate, or prone to overgeneralizing the analogy beyond what is justified, but I admit that Dr. Oz is just so campy that I occasionally watch it for laughs.

It is completely irresponsible scienceyistic entertainment, though.

Some of us at the Holy See are rational science thinkers. I locate here due to the climate and lower property taxes than Roma. Ok, kidding… but…

No, that would not be accepted as science either. It would be on a similar level to Chinese medicine: completely faith based and lacking any scientific reason. I’m not saying that everything not supported by science is wrong, I’m just saying it’s irrational to expect real effects from something that has never demonstrated real effects.

Acupuncture, chiropractic… it’s all in there. All hocus pocus.

Astrology, Homeopathy and Religion (each one of them) are the biggest frauds… ever!!!

I disagree that Eastern Medicine is “Hocus Pocus.” I believe that we’ve possibily lost the knowledge/reasons behind why to eat certain things, but at one point it must have been commonly known. Pharm companies go to areas where people still live traditional hunter/gatherer lives to try to learn some of their secrets. Why? Because all the medicine we need is naturally provided if we could only know what it was or how to process it. To tell someone that eating some root is ridiculous, but swallowing some pill derived from that root is accepted is crazy.

I think that acupuncture (study of nerves), chiropractic (study of joints/tissue), kama sutra (study of pleasure) were amazing breakthroughs. It seems harsh to start writing things off and I believe it comes from an ethnocentric point of view.

Actually, it’s not. Because for that drug to be approved, a scientific study was done that determined reasonable levels of efficacy and risk. If the root was proven in a study to provide said benefits, then of course it would be ok to take it. Eating fruits and vegetables has a scientifically demonstrated benefit in reducing cancer risk. Drinking red wine in moderate has a scientifically demonstrated benefit in reducing heart disease. Reducing sodium intake has a scientifically demonstrated benefit in reducing hypertension. These are all non-pharm health things that are scientifically proven.

Taking a root because grandma said it once cured her boils isn’t science.

And no, not all medicine that we need is provided in its raw form in nature. Again, absolute nonsense.

Chiropractic is absolutely nonsense. Other than for a couple specific back problems, the benefits of chiro has been completely disproven. They are anti-vaccine and mostly dismiss germ theory. Can you believe it? That diseases are caused by misaligned spines? Acupuncture has some proven benefits, but it’s mostly garbage.

That’s not ethnocentric, that’s just rational.