Chinese Riots Over Island Disputes

[Dal]

@CFABLACKBELT

Dal, I’m not sure how you gather from the article that China deserves them.

Seems if anything they belong to Taiwan, which really only China considers is part of China.

But per the 1971 revision, I would say Japan has the strongest argument.

Briefly, China lost to Japan in 1895 gave Taiwan and nearby islands to Japan.

After WWII, US assumed control of the islands and two Chinese parties Communist and Kumingtong fought a civil war. Kumingtong lost and retreated to Taiwan in 1949.

In 1971, the US gave the islands to Japan at will so that they can continue to maintain their military in Japan to contain communist China and Russia.

Both China (communist) and Taiwan (Kumingtong) did not raise the issue seriously because they want US to recognise either one of them as the official China in order to overtake the other party.

Japan took advantage of the fighting between the Chinese.

[FrankArabia]

@CFABLACKBELT

@bchadwick

I have wondered if at some level the Japanese feel that having been the only country (so far) that has had atomic/nuclear weapons dropped on them in war, that this makes them feel they’ve “done their pennance” and therefore don’t need to apologise for anything about the war.

From the US point of view, I think we see the atomic bombs as the acts that balance out what we saw as the “treachery” of Pearl Harbor: the sense that “they started the war with a horrible sneak attack, but we totally pounded them at Hiroshima and Nagasaki.” Though this is generally followed by a a quiet “thank God we didn’t have to invade the home islands the way we had to take Iwo Jima.”

So from the US point of view, there’s this balancing out from the nukes, but Japan was pretty horrid during the war to pretty much all non-Japanese (Koreans, Chinese, Philippinos, Australians), and since they didn’t drop the nukes, it’s not clear that they feel that things have been balanced out at all.

Having lived in Japan. My sense was that most of the Japanese people don’t really create much of a fuss about the bombs as it was something that happened during war. If I had to guess, I think war revionists here kick up more of a stink about it than the Japanese do.

the japanese can’t complain about bombs being dropped on them. they started the war.

[Alladin]

Maybe the narcisssism of small differences extends to the national level.

[bodhisattva]

@FrankArabia

most people who are not oriental still think asians all look alike…hence their complete ignorance…i however can tell the difference between Chinese, Pinoy, Korean, African, and Whites

Thats because you’re Canadian Frank, you probably grew up with all those different types of people as friends.

[bodhisattva]

@FrankArabia

Japan has not taken responsibilities for their atrocities. The Chinese have a right to a lot of things right now. I don’t believe in war unless its inside the ring, but Japan need to fess up and apologize and straighten out their history. Otherwise, this can get really ugly.

Culturally, My experience has been that Japanese people, generally, are the most obstinate people I have ever met and with that obstinace comes a extreme reluctance to admit or take responsibility for their transgressions because they rather save their face then their ass.

Thats just my racist opinion though.