so are USED diamonds cheaper than NEW diamonds?
^Yes. Diamonds do not hold their value the way gold does. Perhaps an option for the value investors here.
Estate jewelry can be much cheaper relative to what it cost new. One of the rings I saw (old school TIffany) originally sold for ~$30K in the early 80s and is now up for sale for about half that. Helps if the metal is platinum (more durable) too. Problem is not a ton of places where I live sell estate pieces.
wait…so if i bring a used diamond and a new diamond to a jeweler, he will know the difference? if so how are they different
I’m not into rings but in cars 
Can anyone here personally recommend any diamond wholesalers in New York? Want to go check out Diamond District but am afraid to get ripped off.
I do always feel strange when people use the noun “females” instead of “women.” It feels like we’re describing cattle or something. Anyone else have this reaction?
I don’t seem to have the issue when “female” is used as an adjective, as in “female psychology.” It’s still more clinical, but usually it comes up in a medical or similar context, and therefore seems to be more appropriately clinical.
But “I was walking into a bar, and I saw there were several females drinking together,” sounds like we’re on an episode Mutual of Omaha’s Wild Kingdom…
That is a creepy place. I once sold a few gold coins there to some Russians. I walked out of the place feeling like I really needed to take a shower. I might have felt cleaner if it had been a third-world brothel.
Noooooooooo! Don’t do it mannnnn! But if you do, get her a CZ, she wont’ know the difference.
Only you. Female is the classy way of referring to a woman.
Shouldn’t they at least be called “righteous females”?
There are two reasons genuine diamonds make good engagement rings, assuming the ring will be worn every day for a long time. 1) Diamonds are the hardest natural mineral and less likely to get scratched or otherwise damaged and 2) their white neutral color allows them to be worn on many occasions with different outfits and not clash with anything. If you are considering proposing with another stone, I would think hard about those two factors. Sapphires are also very scratch resistant registering a 9 on the mohs scale (a diamond is a 10) and they are beautiful stones, but they are usually colored so they won’t always “go” with an outfit. Now there are white sapphires, and other white stones that you could use in place of a diamond, but aside from the hardness issue you should think about the fact that when you propose (or shortly after) with a white stone that isn’t a diamond, you will have to disclose to your potential fiancée what it really is, for she will certainly assume that it is a diamond otherwise. To do otherwise would be deceitful and if she ever finds out (for example she gets it cleaned at a jeweler, or a knowledgable friend sees it), she will feel far more betrayed and angry than if you’d been honest in the first place.
If you think your girlfriend has her heart set on a diamond, and you don’t want to pay De Beer’s high margins, look into getting a vintage/previously owned diamond and resetting it. If it’s a genuine, pretty stone your girl will most likely be thrilled and not care a bit that it didn’t come from Tiffany’s, especially since she should mostly just be thrilled to be engaged to you anyway, and the ring is just a nice gesture.
It should be the topic of your next stand up.
Basically if a diamond was extracted / refined decades ago before the current technology exists, it will probably have more color or more imperfections that what you’d find today. So for instance, if you’re looking at a ring from the '20s with the original stone, it will prob have more color than a diamond you’d find in a ring from Tiffany.
^gotchya. lets say i get a ‘used’ diamond from like 10 years ago, will it be cheaper than a new diamond?
LOL, I hope you laughed in her face…
^ She actually moved back to LA and is now engaged to some BSD who has a plane, Masarati, and what not. He’s not a good looking dude.
What is the hardness and color factors for CZ, moissanite, and diamonique?
To be honest I don’t really know much more than what I’ve already written (not saying much). My guess would be no.
Well, the gf and I were talking the other day about diamond rings. Don’t worry, we’re still a ways away, but we were talking about another friend of ours that recently got engaged so she managed to bring the topic up in the least scary way. Anyway, the most important quality for her is carat size, which is also bad news for me because of the 4 C’s, it’s the carat size that has the biggest impact on price. I couldn’t even continue the conversation without feeling a sense of sticker shock.
For anyone here who bought an expensive ring for his wife/fiancee, any advice here? Intrinsically I realize diamonds are poor investments, but maybe getting the girl the right ring is your way of showing her that you’re investing in her for the long haul. But at the same time, there’s also part of me that things an engagement ring is just a gesture, and merely icing on the cake. I mean, if I’m the real prize here, who cares about a silly rock? Do I have this all wrong?
As an aside, I did mention that I thought owning shares of DDC or TIF would be a far better risk-adjusted investment over the long haul. She then looked at me like I was an alien from outer space.