Who knows, I can’t pick an outcome, although I think its not as easy as you’re expecting. Just to clarify, I’m saying an anti-Trump would struggle but a real candidate partially targeting the rust belt would have better odds.
I’d agree that Clinton missed the boat on campaigning in the midwest, but that’s not endemic to the democratic party.
Like, let’s take Elizabeth Warren. Some of her things like universal health care and treating drug abuse as a mental health issue instead of a criminal issue are better than our current ways of addressing the opioid crisis. Going after drug manufacturers for pushing dangerous drugs is a good idea too.
Getting rid of tax giveaways to companies like FoxConn, or increasing taxes on corporations (and spending it on people through things like Education or Food Security Programs) are the best way to foster long-term economic growth in underserved areas. Education and Healthcare are the 2 biggest requirements for being able to achieve any kind of success. But here we are in a thread calling her Pocahontas because Harvard decided to list her as a POC 20 years ago after giving her tenure. While at the same time ignoring the fact that Trump was given over 500 million dollars by his dad in order to commit tax fraud. That’s the double standard I’m talking about. Criticize Elizabeth Warren for her positions, not for something her employer did. There is a wide margin of opportunity but the messaging is difficult to achieve.Becuause whenever I’ve been to the midewest, people watched Fox News and believed what they heard on the news. That they think the democratic party is only for coastal elites and tune out things to the contrary.
Yeah, I mean, I think the false claim has real merit that she misrepresented herself (not just Harvard unilaterally) given the other surrounding evidence, so I disagree there. Although I also agree with you though that even given that realistically it shouldn’t be a big problem given all the other stuff that gets overlooked. I also think her platform is closer to reaching those groups so I don’t disagree with you there. The difference I think is that Trump bridged the divide with a Tax Cut to get both high and low pieces of the vote within the party. Realistically I think Warren will struggle to get the high dollar vote.
all jokes aside, i think the us will be more latino in the future. i really hope they remember this shit from the republican party and end them for life. id be happier with a 1 party system! less conflict is better!
my favorite song in pocahantas is savages:
https://youtu.be/3oEWA7UglB4?t=44
Ratcliffe: What can you expect from filthy little heathens? Here’s what you get when races are diverse! (Soundtrack version: “Their whole disgusting race is like a curse!”) Their skin’s are hellish red They’re only good when dead! They’re vermin, as I said, and worse! English Settlers: They’re savages! Savages! Ratcliffe: Barely even human! English Settlers: Savages! Savages! Ratcliffe: Drive them from our shore! They’re not like you and me, which means they must be evil We must sound the drums of war!
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Pulling out of foreign wars
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Reforming the prison system, opioid & sex trafficking legislation
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Tax cuts
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ISIS is essentially marginalized
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Job growth/unemployment
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Restructured trade agreements
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Made allies invest more into NATO
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Returned Americans from oversea jails
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US now the largest oil producer
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Pushing for an immigration solution
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Will likely legalize, in every sense, cannabis
If DT changes his stance on climate change, moves forward with his initiative of infrastructure spending, continues to remove the US as the world police, and influences health care/education he will be one of the presidents that is remembered. That said, I think it’s important to recognize what he’s already accomplished.
Before I am attacked - make no mistake about it, I do not defend what trump says, in fact I despise the way he presents himself. You can have opposing views with him - I know I do with practically everything that pertains to the environment - but he gets things done.
Most of those are either not his accomplishments (unless the advent of the internet boom is Bill Clinton’s) or are not necessarily good. Politically, I understand what you’re saying, but I don’t think you can point to that list and say he “gets things done.”
^Remove 4,5,9 which I agree, cannot be chalked up to him. The rest however are hard to argue - that includes 11 which i thought of removing. So i think its fair to make the assertion.
What Wars did Trump pull out of?
Can you please expand upon what Trump did for the opioid crisis? Also, what was the dollar impact of the USMCA v NAFTA?
Syria and withdrawing from Afghanistan
Bill limits addicting prescriptions and funds research on nonaddicting substances
Trade deals (pulling out of TPP which I think would have been devastating). I’ll give you a dollar figure on USMCA as soon as you can quantify the loss…
The other countries aren’t dragging their feet because we’re giving them better terms…
wait US withdrew from Syria?
Poopenhaur, if maritime shipping were a country it would be the sixth largest polluter. Maybe Trump’s war on trade is really a war on global warming?
Keep in mind he has relied primarily on executive orders for most of these “accomplishments” – at a time when repubs had majorities in both houses of congress. He couldn’t even lead his own party with the deck stacked in his favor. Is that really getting things done?
Not surprising - I wouldnt necessarily call established republicans his biggest allies. The democrats and the republicans are fairly similar contrary to popular opinion. They focus our attention over petty, heated battles, while passing major legislation in the background. There are exceptions to this, I’d put Bernie in there, but not many.
Also, Congress has really abdicated it’s authority in many cases (particularly on major issues) and left it up to presidential executive order. This has been an increasing trend for a long time. It would be nice to see Congress address climate change, social security, gun reform, income inequality, food insecurity, education and immigration in some sort of positive manner.
It seems likely that generational shift may be the only thing that shakes things up.
If he believed global warming existed, I’d agree with you.
Sometimes the best of things are done obliviously with the worst of intentions.
Fair point, gotta look for the silver linings.
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This Schopen guy is painful to read. Hillary had a platform - it was “It’s Time for Hillary”. In other words, “I deserve to be President”. She changed her slogan to “Fighting for You” after the first one received poor feedback. Then, her campaign filled in the blanks with vague promises based on what they thought would be popular. By the end, she decided to market herself as a successor to Obama. Her campaign was pointless, selfish and entitled. She was not a good candidate.
I believe America will be receptive to a moderate Democratic candidate in 2020. However, this candidate will need to offer positivity and hope for party reform. Voters want this, and it’s why a low tier Democratic party member like Beto is considered the statistical frontrunner for their nomination, ahead of top rate sht slingers like Pocahontas. I just hope they don’t decide to promote a party senior again and shove that person down everyone’s throat like Mandingo.
https://www.predictit.org/markets/detail/3698/Who-will-win-the-2020-US-presidential-election