Fired

^ Best post so far.

Also, in lots of companies, if you get laid off, they have to give you compensation benefits. If you are fired for cause, they don’t need to give you anything. Not that I’m implying anything about your current company.

Hello Mister Walrus Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > Also, in lots of companies, if you get laid off, > they have to give you compensation benefits. If > you are fired for cause, they don’t need to give > you anything. Not that I’m implying anything about > your current company. this is true- my sisters bff is head of hr and has told me about how they have to keep precise documentation for firing someone for cause. If they don’t follow the protocol they cannot- includes series of warning with the last set being written. If they don’t have all that documented you cannot be fired. The movie scene with a manager going off and sending someone out the door does not exist per her. Its not like in Europe- but if the proper protocol is not followed the company has to give the contracted benefits of a lay-off situation. And if you would know if you received a ‘warning’ .

In my last job you realized that you were sh!tcanned when suddenly your computer went off, and less than a minute later a security guard arrived at your place. You couldn’t even say goodbye before being escorted away. I think that practice is a standard in many places now. I little rude but I guess is the only way to protect the company’s interests.

Part-time Crook Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > In my last job you realized that you were > sh!tcanned when suddenly your computer went off, > and less than a minute later a security guard > arrived at your place. You couldn’t even say > goodbye before being escorted away. I think that > practice is a standard in many places now. I > little rude but I guess is the only way to protect > the company’s interests. This happened to my sister last year. She was a designer and they didn’t want her to delete her designs, take her designs, or take anything off the computer etc. The computer just didn’t suddenly go off though - - they brought her into a room and then didn’t let her go back to her desk.

When you are fired they almost never let you go back to your desk. In places I’ve worked, an HR person or admin grabs a box and cleans out your desk/cube. Sometimes you get the stuff on your way out, and sometimes it’s mailed to you.

I was laid off at a crumbling company about 18 months ago. I was definitely one of their top performers but was the youngest member with the least amount of seniority. I had survived a number of rounds of layoffs. They called me in to their office via instant messenger and said, “as you know, performance is key around here. Unfortunately, we believe it’s time for us to part ways. We wish you the best, blah blah”. This was such BS–I had never missed a deadline, my work was almost always pristine, I had learned the job fast, I worked late nights (to meet my deadlines, which were often missed by my colleagues), I was well liked, my 6 month review was glowing. A year later, one of my colleagues left the company. He and I spoke and he told me that I was the lowest ranking white male left on staff. My selection for termination was because they needed to lay off one more person and that they couldn’t terminate any of their females or minorities because they were short on their diversity numbers (San Francisco-based company, FYI). The moral of the story is performance can be used as a smokescreen to cover up the fact that the company is doing poorly.

^ Damn, that seems almos litigation worthy.

Thats f(@*ed up, kkent. But I think you are better off not working there.

I’m sure this sort of thing happens more frequently than we realize.

wow kkent that is unbelievable. You are probably better off in hindsight.

Kkent’s situation is exactly what I described in my earlier post - he explained the situation very eloquently. Moral of the story is to think critically about what you can improve on, but don’t get down on yourself about things. Companies are always looking for scapegoats and smokescreens in a down economy. Kkent is probably better off working where he is now, and you’ll probably be better off at a future employer as well.

Looks like he was escorted from the building.

Serviced By Others Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > This is an odd scenario. Wouldn’t keeping around > a terminated employee create a huge moral hazard > as far as pulling copper wire out of the walls, > taking a dump on the boss’s desk, stealing client > files, etc? I disagree. I entered into a similar agreement with a previous employer. Similar scenario, except organizational fit was the issue. I received three months pay, a neutral recommendation, and the ability to disclose that I left at my own discretion. In return, I promised confidentiality regarding all business matters. I had leverage in the situation because I was in a position where I had access over my career with the company to sensitive information (some of which the company had a vested interest in keeping confidential). My company knew I was a man of my word and I had good character so they weren’t too worried about negative behavior (nor would I engage in that sort of behavior). On a big picture level… people know people… so act accordingly.

nuppal Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > ^ > Damn, that seems almos litigation worthy. If you’re under 40 and white good luck.