HLF

Lol was he seriously tearing up?

^either a great actor or serious LOL

Ackmans comment about Herbalife “employees/salespeople” quitting is off target I think. These people have integrated the product into their lives. They’ve gotten their families and friends involved and believe in the product. If anything they see Ackman as a bully trying to destroy their livelihood.

LOL stock ended up +25% after his presentation

Shares of Herbalife rose steadily in the morning after Ackman started giving his talk on Herbalife’s nutritional clubs, increasing by 8% to $58.40 in the first hour of the presentation. Two hours into the talk the stock had risen by 11% to $60. That’s a little higher than the shares were changing hands for on Monday before Ackman drove down the stock by 11%, saying he would be delivering “the most important presentation that I have made in my career.” Ackman had promised in a CNBC interview on Monday that “we won’t disappoint.” Ackman’s presentation was still going on at 1:07 p.m., with the stock up by 15% to $62.22. During the presentation, Ackman suggested that Herbalife had been repurchasing shares in a material way on Tuesday. Shares of Herbalife continued to rise after the three-hour presentation ended, closing at $67.77, up 25% for the day.

http://www.forbes.com/sites/nathanvardi/2014/07/22/bill-ackmans-big-herbalife-reveal-bombs-with-investors/

So, maybe now this is a good short, haha.

bro is missing i wonder whats up…did he short squeeze Ackman and cahsed out

bro is missing i wonder whats up…did he short squeeze Ackman and cahsed out

Yeah I squeezed Ackman on HLF :smiley: No, I was in meetings all day but I heard Bill cried like a little girl. Frankly, I don’t blame him at this point… Really though? JCP and now HLF? Really?

http://www.businessinsider.com/bill-ackman-cries-during-hlf-presentation-2014-7

I spoke with an insider at HLF and he said the firm isn’t even talking about Ackman. It’s all smoke and hot air. Once the investigation ends, this nonsense will be put to rest and Ackman can go find another firm to short sell.

I was thinking about this today – if you have to spend $50 million researching an investment, how good of an investment could that be? I bet at no point in the history of the capital markets has any idea involving $50 million of research ended well (actually, probably no one else was dumb enough to spend that much). He should have just given me the $50 million and I would give him some way better shorts than HLF lol

I also love his comment about how it’s criminal and the regulators are taking too long. Psst, Ackman, any 3rd year hedge fund analyst knows that shorts dependent upon regulators stepping up are bad shorts. Come on dude, you have billions under management, you can’t be pulling shit busch league s–t, it’s embarassing.

I mean 50m of a 15bn fund is like 0.3% of the fund.

Someone did call him out during the Q&A and told him the price was rising. Can’t remember exactly what he said but he made some excuse about analysts only looking at HLF earnings.

Here is a pretty good breakdown from the FT (free) http://ftalphaville.ft.com/2014/07/23/1905042/the-herbalife-debate-shifted/

http://www.bloombergview.com/articles/2014-09-30/accused-herbalife-insider-trader-tried-to-take-back-his-trades?cmpid=yhoo

Jordan Peixoto please stand up

Anyone playing this ahead of the earnings this month?

new documentary

http://finance.yahoo.com/news/live-bill-ackman-hosting-webcast-163143764.html