^ No kidding, it’s the NYPost.
naren
April 18, 2014, 10:38pm
#22
US has free universal health care too.
It’s called an emergency room
of course it can’t work in the states. They couldn’t even figure out the metric system
bodhisattva:
itera:
http://nypost.com/2014/04/16/the-false-promise-of-single-payer-healthcare/
Some quotes:
Single-payer’s cheerleaders cite Canada as proof of the system’s superiority. It’s a foolish fetish: Our northern neighbor’s health-care system is plagued by rationing, long waits, poor-quality care, scarcities of vital medical technologies and unsustainable costs. That’s exactly what’s in store for America if we follow Canada’s lead.
To keep a lid on costs, Canadian officials ration care. As a result, the average Canadian has to wait 4½ months between getting a referral from his primary-care physician to a specialist for elective medical treatment — and actually receiving it.
Canada’s wait times are certainly growing: That average 18-week delay for “elective” referals is 91 percent longer than in 1993.
Every Canadian is technically “guaranteed” access to health care. But long waits and the scarce resources leave many untreated.
Nor is Canadians’ treatment close to “free”: Patients may only have to pay a nominal fee when they get treatment. But the typical Canadian family pays about $11,300 in taxes every year to finance the public-insurance system.
Because of the low quality of care and long waits in their home country, many Canadians come to the United States for medical attention — over 42,000 in 2012.
Many of these are part of Canada’s political elite. Single-payer may be good enough for their constituents, but it’s apparently not good enough for them.
Completely wrong, there are wait times for elective treatments like knee and hip replacements but for emergencies and life threatening stuff its usually very prompt. Two years my mother found a lump on her breast, within a week she had a biopsy and was having a mastacomy and chemo treatments within a month. Three months ago I had a cough that turned out to be a lung infection. I went into a walk in clinic and within 45 minutes I was diagnosed and had the antibiotics in my hand, didn’t cost a damn thing either.
And claims of rationing are out of touch too, if thats true they wouldn’t have given my 91 year old diabetic grandmother with osteoarthritis back surgery in Februrary and let her stay in the hospital for three weeks afterwards.
These are outlier events/examples cooked up by people with agenda’s. I’ve never been let down or had to wait an inordinate amount of time for a medical necessity.
This is priceless - refuting an argument based on anecdotes with an argument based on anecdotes. Post of the year! You should be a politician.
itera
April 20, 2014, 12:05pm
#25
I loved this quote from the article:
“Canada’s wait times are certainly growing: That average 18-week delay for “elective” referals is 91 percent longer than in 1993.”
That was 21 years ago. Old people got 21 years older. Our population has grown from by 7million since then. Everyone knows our infrastructure hasn’t kept up, what a bs stat.
But that’s still a valid criticism right? you can’t build a system and don’t take into account a higher population in 20 years.
if you build a sewer pipe to support around 1000 people, you can’t expect to use that same pipe in 20 years, when the population has grown a lot and not expect it to backup.
you’re wrong. We’re already there.
Weve been there since LBJ signed the Civil Rights act of 1964, and proclaimed that it would “have those niggers voting democrat for the next hundred years.”
Google it. He really said it.
And yet minorities like to coo about how he was one of their “greatest friends” and they love to point to the act as the “pivotal point when we began to point toward a post-racial society.”
naren
April 21, 2014, 6:12pm
#30
Greenman72:
you’re wrong. We’re already there.
Weve been there since LBJ signed the Civil Rights act of 1964, and proclaimed that it would “have those niggers voting democrat for the next hundred years.”
I fail to see how A = B where A = ensuring voting rights for minorities and B = supporting a welfare state.
Greenman72:
you’re wrong. We’re already there.
Weve been there since LBJ signed the Civil Rights act of 1964, and proclaimed that it would “have those niggers voting democrat for the next hundred years.”
Kind of ironic given the fact that 80% of republicans in congress voted for it, compared to less than 70% of democrats.
itera:
I loved this quote from the article:
“Canada’s wait times are certainly growing: That average 18-week delay for “elective” referals is 91 percent longer than in 1993.”
That was 21 years ago. Old people got 21 years older. Our population has grown from by 7million since then. Everyone knows our infrastructure hasn’t kept up, what a bs stat.
But that’s still a valid criticism right? you can’t build a system and don’t take into account a higher population in 20 years.
if you build a sewer pipe to support around 1000 people, you can’t expect to use that same pipe in 20 years, when the population has grown a lot and not expect it to backup.
It’s valid criticism of course, I protested the way they went about highlighting that fact.
I am sure our population grew beyond the projections when the system was built. Our immigration laws are more lenient than the states, you would be surprised how easy it is to come here. It only takes one person to land here and become a citizen, and their whole village and 99 year old grandparents will be here in a matter of years. I know that’s not PC but anyone who lives in the Greater Toronto Area knows its true. Canada is not multicultural, it’s merely multi-tolerance.
^ haha it’s true. Then they don’t integrate and favor their own race
Canada was the first country in the world to adopt multiculturalism as an official policy. I believe it’s the only one that has it in its constitution.
