justin88 Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > You don’t go to a good school for the professors > or the syllabus. > > You go to be classmates with the other kids that > get into the good school. You’ll learn more from > them anyway. What a load of cr*p. Sure you’ll learn more for the drunk kids at the State school than your Asian classmates at MIT or Stanford 
Plus the lazy-ass tenured-union-protected professor at Cal-State has probably a lot more to teach than his Nobel Prize winning counterpart at Caltech.
Annnnnnddddd, we once again devolve into a pissing contest on BS (that’s a pretty disgusting image). Repeat after me: -there is no one best school -going somewhere to a good school in and of itself means basically nothing -all that is important is what you know and what you have done -institutional snobbery of any type usually stems from personal insecurities -the main reason I can think of for going to a “good” school is so that I can tell people that I go/went there. -Ivy schools and lib arts are equal, but different.
I felt the same way about ivy universities too until I got out in the real world. State schools provide the best value, I know countless HR directors that actively reject ivy league resumes for positions because they have a sense of entitlement or will leave when the economy gets better. They all work at some of the most prestigious firms. They do it in private as most of thier kids are in ivy schools, lol. Thanks to the internet you can pretty much teach yourself any topic imaginable for free(bittorrent).
This thread totally misses the point. Goldman research is crap because they front run the majority of their clients / consumers of the research in order to benefit a select minority of the best clients. This story broke a few months ago and is well documented (try Google). Nothing has come of it yet and probably won’t because… *drum roll* a Goldmanite works as the COO of the enforcement division of the SEC. Long story short, Goldman research is conflicted and should be avoided, but not because some athlete went to some Ivy League college and then started working at Goldman. The research is bad because its fraudulent, period. There’s nothing else to say about that.
Double post.
Are we assuming all athletes are not intelligent. Probably better suited for an investment banking career than a non athlete, especially if he was a leader on the team. You dont have to be super brilliant to be an investment banker, mild intelligence with charisma and showmanship is probably worth much more. You are a salesman, albeit selling mergers and or acquisitions or IPOs but you are still a salesman.
couple points 1. There are plenty of extremely intelligent athletes out there. Furthermore, I think the combination of academic success along with athletic success is a great indicator of ‘real world’ potential as it tends to demonstrate leadership, multitasking, and teamwork abilities. 2. I agree w/ the fact that no one school is the best for everyone’s particular situation, but timotimo my friend, you really amaze me w/ every post here. Let me just say that if you go to HSB and network w/ fellow alum that is SVP @ Firm X and they take your resume to your chip-on-the-shoulder HR friend it won’t matter what she thinks. Thats the benefit my friend- the fact that going to some of these schools gets you past the brainless trough of HR tools. You seem to base your opinions on random anecdotes… I don’t really get it.
It’s important to know that all white people believe they have the intelligence and work ethic required to attend an Ivy League school. The only reason they did not actually go to one is that they chose not to participate in the “dog and pony show” required to gain acceptance. White people also like to believe that they were not born into a privileged (enough) family to get legacy admission. This should always be at the back of your mind as you talk to a white person about the Ivy League. Once you have determined that a white person did not attend an Ivy League School, you should try to give them the opportunity to explain why their school was actually a superior educational experience. Some easy ways to do this are to mention grade inflation, professors who value research over teaching, or high tuition costs. Any one of these will set a white person off on a multi-minute rant. When they have finally run out of arguments about why they chose the right school, you should say “I knew a whole bunch of people who went to Harvard and none of them work as hard or are as smart as you.” This is a very effective technique for gaining acceptance since white people need constant reassurance that they are smart and that they made the right choice with their life. If you actually went to an Ivy League school, you will been seen as a threat so prepare for a lot of questions from white people. They will constantly ask questions about how much work you had, the type of students at the school, the professors, your dorm room, your reading lists, and they will try so hard to figure out your SAT score. They desperately need a source of comparison so that they need to figure out if you are actually smarter than them. In fact, the only way to stop this line of questioning is to imply that you only got in because of your minority status. Once you say that, white people will stop feeling threatened since they can now believe they too would have been accepted to an Ivy League school if they were a minority. It also gives them a personal story about the effectiveness of Affirmative Action. http://stuffwhitepeoplelike.com/2008/05/06/98-the-ivy-league/
isn’t timotimo that guy who was shorting Google cause his browser had an ad-block feature or something? yeah. i’d listen to what that dude says and take it seriously y’all guys
joemontana…that’s hilarious. That site is great…and (sadly) very dead on!
storko Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > i meant Phoenix, gotcha! > > I don’t think there is as much snobbery in Canada > than in the States. Any Canadians agree? There are 5 good schools in Canada: McGill, Toronto, Queen’s, Western, UBC
Five good schools. Five large banks. Is five the magic number in USA-jr?
Isn’t the term Ivy League just referring to the conference these schools are in? I know the prestige that comes with the term, but usually the school you went to is more important than what conference it’s in
bromion Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > This thread totally misses the point. Goldman > research is crap because they front run the > majority of their clients / consumers of the > research in order to benefit a select minority of > the best clients. This story broke a few months > ago and is well documented (try Google). Nothing > has come of it yet and probably won’t because… > *drum roll* a Goldmanite works as the COO of the > enforcement division of the SEC. > > Long story short, Goldman research is conflicted > and should be avoided, but not because some > athlete went to some Ivy League college and then > started working at Goldman. The research is bad > because its fraudulent, period. There’s nothing > else to say about that. Remember when oil hit $150, and Goldman’s prediction was for it to hit $200, and then oil went from $150 to $40, and Goldman changed their prediction directly from $200 to $30? That was awesome. I don’t believe in conspiracy theories, but GS front running their clients isn’t a conspiracy, or a theory. On a related rant, this is why I think it’s dumb when people try to discredit a pundit by saying “Oh he’s just talking his book”. Of course he’s talking his book! That’s the honest thing to do! The scumbags are the people who talk against their book. Lest you think I’m bitter, I’m also long GS. If you can’t beat em…