Mars

That’s god damn criminal. Nobody remakes Swayze.

at the time you didn’t know it for sure but had an incling that a cast consisting of swayze, reeves, and busey is an absolute powerhouse.

ftfm.

i agree to a degree but the vast majority of his movies are not philosophical. the only ones i can think of are TR, End of Days and the Sixth Day. True Lies and Commando are the literal opposite of philosophical. Collateral Damage. terrible. is the Running Man really all that philosophical? add the 100 other non-action movies, Kindergarten Cop, Jingle All the Way, Twins, etc, and these movies would’ve been 100% flops without Arnold’s one liners and strange body movements.

a Commando reboot would be the ultimate waste of film. nothing beats Arnie jumping from a plane in flight about 200ft above ground and bouncing back up like he jumped 5ft. he tears a seat out of a car and then crouches in it! he rips a pipe off the wall and impales someone with it.

Twins with Arnold Schwarzenegger is a philosophical movie. Wouldn’t be philosophical without Danny DeVito.

What about the one where he got pregnant? Junior, I think?

I never saw it. Can somebody fill me in on the philosophical-ness of it?

A movie way ahead of it’s time. That was, like, 20 years before the whole “pregnant man” thing that went on a couple years ago.

Arnold was the first pregnant man.

Ok, I think there are really two categories of Arnold movies: the ones that are ridiculous just because they have Arnold, and the ones that are ridiculous because they were written for Arnold. Some movies, like “Junior”, deal with serious issues like gender identity and the struggle in raising family under constantly evolving social norms. Others, like “The Pianist”, are unapolagetic action films with larger-than-life sequences. I’m pretty sure Arnold was in The Pianist. That’s the one where he fights Ivan Drago.

Ohai, you’re exactly right about that.

agree to agree.

'STAR WARS’ CLASS WARS: IS MARS THE ESCAPE HATCH FOR THE 1 PERCENT?

http://www.newsweek.com/2015/12/25/mars-colonies-rich-people-404681.html?rel=most_read1

haha

The whole premise of starting a Martian colony is, at best, a pointless exercise. There’s no sound in space.

How can you live if there’s no sound in space?

How can you have any pudding if you don’t beat your meat?

This confirms what I thought, Musk hasn’t thought this thru at all, and has no clue what he is doing. Speciation is what would need to happen in order for it to succeed, which is why it won’t. There will never be two homo sapien groups living on different planets for any significant length of time.

Musk’s keynote address, entitled “Making Humans a Multiplanetary Species,” will tackle the technical challenges…

http://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2016-09-23/elon-musk-to-outline-his-plans-for-mars

Yeah I don’t really get Mars. We know it would be harsh to live there and its millions of miles away from humanity… It’s not even like being in the country and enjoying the peace, serenity, and nature. You’re out there and there’s nothing.

It just seems like a ton of money to spend on what will amount to little more than more tidbits of data for space research.

Space exploration sounds great but seems to have little utility. The Mars colonization thing is really far away and likely not for generations after us. No magnetic field (so radiation), a thin atmosphere that keeps getting blown away due to the lack of magnetic field, and low gravity with significant long term effects. You’ll be living in a hobbit hole on Mars and walking around like bubble boy.

I think we should at least set up a lunar colony as a dry run before we start dreaming about Mars. Take a whole bunch of dry ice packs there…

Meanwhile we turn the Earth into Venus by burning fossil fuels…

If Elon Musk ever goes rogue…

They need someone smart, from evolutionary biology, who can be the first of a new profession: modeling required starting populations on new planets.

Say you have a starting population of 10,000…but 98% of the population can not survive the first 100yrs (see Palantir’s reasons, plus the ones we have not thought of yet), well that leaves you with 200 who can perhaps survive 1000yrs, and perhaps that’s enough genetic diversity to move forward and create a sustainable population of homo martians. But you can never add new homo sapiens to that population, as that would dilute the positive adaptations of the martians. You need to start from the start with the whole deal.

It’s really complicated, too complicated for a showman like Musk.

Okay, so he admits basically everyone is going to die, so there’s no way this is a starter colony. It’s more of an experiment to see how they die. Can’t really market it that way though…

“The first journey will be very dangerous, and the risk of fatality will be very high ,” Musk said during a highly anticipated presentation at the 67th International Astronautical Congress in Guadalajara, Mexico. " Are you prepared to die? Then you are a candidate for going.”

http://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2016-09-27/musk-seeks-mars-explorers-with-200-000-gumption-to-risk-death

I would imagine the hope would be to get data and figure out things that might work and things that dont no? While I am not gung-ho on this idea I do like the idea of pushing ourselves. Humans used to take enormous risks and exploring the unknown, it took us to new lands and helped us expand. While I dont think Mars individually is that important I think attempting to improve space travel/technology is incredibly important. Tons of tech we use every day was created by the military, NASA, JPL etc and we need to have a clear coherent goal to push our scientists towards to help push technological advancement forward.

As far as people signing up I am sure you would have some even if chance of death was 100%. The chance to explore has always drawn people in.

This. And as far as people willing to go with a high chance of death? An online sign-up was conducted by another Mars exploration company (name escapes me for the moment) and they received over 100,000 volunteers in a couple months. Getting people to go won’t be an issue.

Surviving the massive amounts of radiation on the way there may be though…

Just send all the prisoners serving life or on death-row, win-win.