Orlando Shooting

this has to be impossible. if we have all these regulations, then why do people die of being fat and drunk driving. there’s regulation against it so people can’t die from that bad stuff.

I suppose it’s a consistent position to say “No real change is required in response to Orlando. Sure, it sucks to be them, but these things don’t happen all that often, so why get upset about anything.”

where does the us constitution say felons cant own guns, i thought everyone can own guns no?

Assault weapons are largley regulated. But to my points above, I’m strongly in favor of more *good* regulation (particularly on the state or regional level). Not so much an outright ban though.

Most restrictions against felons are on a state by state basis. However felons lose the right to guns through federal law. They also lose the right to vote while incarcerated and the right to serve on juries thereafter.

Clearly you don’t understand the concept of risk mitigation. We are a nation of 300+ million people, you can’t think in absolutes.

Do you really think alcohol related deaths would decrease if we got rid of age restrictions?

I’m sure several people a year die of erotic self-asphyxiation, but I wouldn’t argue for a ban on belts.

whats “good” regulation? is that something that is good for you what if your neighbor think its bad for him, is it still good?

wth i thoght the founding fathers wanted everyone to own guns and have the right to vote.

thats bs man

First, and foremost, alcohol, tobacco, driving, and fatty foods are a privilege, not a right. But, while we’re on the topic, you can’t purchase a handgun until you’re 21, you can’t purchase a long gun until you’re 18. Last time i checked, you aren’t subject to an FBI background check each time you try to buy one of these items. You’re not allowed to have firearms while intoxicated. So, there’s that…

As far as him being cleared to purchase the gun while on a no fly list, that’s the FBI’s own doing. They cleared him. They have the authority to hold/deny approval. That’s on them.

A few pages back I posted a framework basically forcing all transactions to occur through licensed dealers and heightening federal penalties for any unregulated gun transactions that would allow states (and cities) to pass prohibitive bans effectively as they saw fit. It’s worth reading, particularly so I won’t have to repeat myself. Most people largely seem to find it agreeable. This way gun laws can be more effectively tailored to the population being governed rather than sitting in a DC gridlock as rural and urban populations try to pass federal bans (or not) and take the other unwilling part of the population along for the ride. Or we can sit here and fight over a class of weapon that causes less than 250 deaths a year nationwide in a bill that will never pass on the federal level and would largely achieve nothing.

Since some of you are so proudly anti-gun, why don’t you all demonstrate your beliefs with your own home?

Go outside and post a flag/sticker/lawn sign stating that your house is a gun-free zone.

^Id rather infringe upon your freedoms.

That’s exactly what the Nazis said to the Jews. Just like in the movie “Schindler’s List”.

That is the point, film Schindler’s List gives us the template for infringing your freedom. Precisely what I am advocating. Forcible seizure of gun ownership, and imprisonnent of those who resist.

see now up until here you were doing a pretty job of trolling because i don’t think people could tell if you were serious.

Thanks trollius maximus

not bad anony

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Why can’t gun supporters just admit this is a hobby and not some kind of survival necessity. People on the other side would be more likely to sympathize with them. Arguing that somehow guns make people safer as a whole makes them seem crazy, making other people naturally oppose them.

2 words: zombie apocalypse