Orlando Shooting

Yawn, and for some balance. And even if this wasn’t true, it doesn’t matter until the USA can amend the constitution. Proving beliefs, facts, whatever, is not how laws are changed. Dangerous road to go down when the people start accepting that the politicians are ignoring the laws because they happen to agree with their politics.

Do you ever try to get both sides of an argument? Or is your desire to have a cookie too strong?

AUSTRALIA: MORE VIOLENT CRIME DESPITE GUN BAN

April 13, 2009

It is a common fantasy that gun bans make society safer. In 2002 – five years after enacting its gun ban – the Australian Bureau of Criminology acknowledged there is no correlation between gun control and the use of firearms in violent crime. In fact, the percent of murders committed with a firearm was the highest it had ever been in 2006 (16.3 percent), says the D.C. Examiner.

Even Australia’s Bureau of Crime Statistics and Research acknowledges that the gun ban had no significant impact on the amount of gun-involved crime:

  • In 2006, assault rose 49.2 percent and robbery 6.2 percent.
  • Sexual assault – Australia’s equivalent term for rape – increased 29.9 percent.
  • Overall, Australia’s violent crime rate rose 42.2 percent.

Moreover, Australia and the United States – where no gun-ban exists – both experienced similar decreases in murder rates:

  • Between 1995 and 2007, Australia saw a 31.9 percent decrease; without a gun ban, America’s rate dropped 31.7 percent.
  • During the same time period, all other violent crime indices increased in Australia: assault rose 49.2 percent and robbery 6.2 percent.
  • Sexual assault – Australia’s equivalent term for rape – increased 29.9 percent.
  • Overall, Australia’s violent crime rate rose 42.2 percent.
  • At the same time, U.S. violent crime decreased 31.8 percent: rape dropped 19.2 percent; robbery decreased 33.2 percent; aggravated assault dropped 32.2 percent.
  • Australian women are now raped over three times as often as American women.

While this doesn’t prove that more guns would impact crime rates, it does prove that gun control is a flawed policy. Furthermore, this highlights the most important point: gun banners promote failed policy regardless of the consequences to the people who must live with them, says the Examiner.

Source: Howard Nemerov, “Australia experiencing more violent crime despite gun ban,” Free Republic, April 9, 2009.

mass shooting > violent crime no?

^Pools kill more people than mass shootings, No? Teaching people to drive better would be resources better spent if the goal was to save lives.

But it doesn’t matter. I don’t care if there was one mass shooting everyday. The constitution needs to be amended if change is to be had. If it is done any other way, you will have civil war. And no, our military cannot put down 30 million armed citizens. Just not possible. Numbers trump iron.

You do realize the Australian gun round up was not voluntary? The purchases were forced.

All rifles account for <240 deaths a year in the US with the number from the demonized AR15’s amounting to less than 100 by most estimates. Meanwhile knives typically run higher than 1,700.

So, I’m not sure how mass shooting > violent crime unless we’re referring to media coverage.

Golly Merika, maybe it was the guns?

Doesn’t take 12pgs of “analyst” posts to figure that out.

This guy is clownish at times, but this article appears to make sense. http://www.cnbc.com/2016/06/29/gun-control-isnt-the-answer-we-already-know-how-to-stop-the-violence-commentary.html

^ Good read.

http://www.theblaze.com/stories/2016/06/30/gunman-opens-fire-into-crowd-at-another-nightclub-this-might-be-why-the-incident-isnt-leading-the-news/

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