The airplane crashed in a remote part of the Indian Ocean two weeks ago. I think you can make some pretty clear assumptions about the mortality of the passengers based on that piece of info.
I’m not arguing with the conclusion. However, presumably, this conclusion is drawn from a number of logical steps. Perhaps: 1) The plane must have crashed violently, allowing no chance of escape (if so, how do they know the plane crashed violently?), or 2) Escape is possible, but 2 week survival is implausible due to XYZ, or 3) Some combination of evidence disqualifies all scenarios where people are alive on life rafts, etc.
what do you guys think happens after death…i can see nana starting that thread
there’s no physical evidence. It’s speculated that by analyzing a satellite ping of what should be the flight, the direction suggests it went down in the middle of nowhere Indian Ocean
CFA Institute revokes their membership.
I wonder about the 7 hours that plane was adrift in the sky.
Remember that the pilots have their own oxygen which is fully independent of other O2 systems on board the aircraft and each other. It’s highly unlikely this whole thing came about due to lack of air. Moreover, if the plane had decended anywhere within radar coverage, the descent would have been picked up.
A NYT article on Sunday commented that the plane had an unusually high amount of lithium batteries on board.
Yes, it is pretty reasonable to assume that the plane is in the Indian Ocean. I was wondering how it is conclusive that everyone is dead.
so you’re saying that in a couple years we could have someone washed up on drift wood and say they were on teh flight?
Sounds legit
No, but it has not been two years yet. I am wondering why certain scenarios - for instance a soft landing and passengers escaping on life rafts - has been ruled out conclusively. It is more likely than not that everyone is dead, but what evidence leads Najib to say with 100% certainty that everyone is dead? Again, I am not arguing with the conclusion. I am just interested in the analysis that leads to this conclusion.
^ Probably because it’s time to move these families forward and stop stringing them on.
Couldn’t it be possible that passengers jumped out of plane with parachute/life raft? Plane was flying for several hours off the course. How many of them made safe landing could be a question.
There aren’t any parachutes on a commercial jet and to leap out of a plane at several thousand feet moving at a couple hundred knots in a raft is probably as close to suicide as possible.
smuggy this was a joke right?
They’re dead because they’re in the middle of the ocean with zero land nearby and a dinky little life raft to hold onto if they’re lucky. What will they do for food? They can’t drink the salt water despite being surrounded by it. I find it highly unlikely that a number of people would have survived in those conditions, and that’s not even throwing storms and wildlife into the mix.
I don’t even think planes have life rafts anymore. When I’ve flown lately, at least domestically, the planes emergency material all says “use seat cushion for floatation.” There MAY have been life jackets on the last international flight, maybe. But it may have been seat cushions too.
There isn’t any hope of someone with a seat cushion floating in the Indian Ocean and about a 0.0005% chance for a guy with a life jacket. If all you have for a raft is the emergency slide… which assumes a peaceful water landing… you too are probably also dead after it overturned.
How do you jump out of a plane with a liferaft from 12,000 feet?
Commercial jetliners are stocked with food and drinks! Plus, the inflatable slides turn into life rafts, and there are life jackets for everyone under the seats. Of course, if the plane is obliterated upon impact with the water, none of this would matter, and it seems like this is the conclusion drawn by the search coalition (but again, the specific evidence that supports this conclusion is unknown to me).
Like this, ohai?
http://www.theguardian.com/world/2014/feb/04/castaway-jose-salvador-alvarenga-survival-expert
For all the scepticism cast at the idea that José Salvador Alvarenga survived for more than a year drifting on a small boat in the Pacific, such a feat is physiologically feasible, especially for a fisherman experienced in catching his own food, according to an expert on survival at sea.