women who say they have no interest in a man’s salary
Well, I certainly hope that you’ve googled “South Park Wheel of Fortune” by now.
Women who say “I don’t normally do this…”
People who start a sentence with “I’m not racist but…”
People who say “I’m not racist, I have x black/Jewish/asian friends.”
Ditto for homophobes.
^So is a homophobe an “afraid” thing, or a “hatred” thing?
EG - I’m a big proponent of gay rights, but I don’t like to watch two dudes making out. That’s why I don’t watch Glee or Modern Family or Days of Our Lives. Does this make me a homophobe?
^ Do you like to watch two girls making out?
^Depends. How high are the odds are that I’ll get in on it somehow?
Isn’t it sort of the same thing though? I don’t think anyone would suggest that to be a proponent of gay rights you have to go daily to a gay bar, etc., but it would be a double standard if you were to say you don’t like watching two men make out/hold hands/other straight couple acceptable pda. (Making out is borderline, maybe like a hug or kiss.)
I dunno I’m not gay. But I don’t think it’s right to tell other people to act or not act in a certain way in public because it’s gross, whereas other people are allowed to do the same things. Because your sensiblities are hurt? That’s pretty selfish.
By the way, I don’t have a tv but there are dudes making out on TV now? Ugh so much agenda. But they’re white dudes right.
I think we’re all allowed to have preferences. I don’t really enjoy watching two men make out and I would like the option not to watch it, just as I would prefer not to watch close-up some kinds of hetero activities some consenting couples engage in.
But if you are going to say that watching two men make out in public is prohibited, but watching a straight couple make out in public is acceptable, then that makes you a candidate for being called homophobic. You might enjoy watching one more than the other, but it would seem that they should either both be allowed or both be prohibited.
It’s tricky though, because norms over time change. Maybe we think that a couple should be allowed to make out in public, whether gay or straight. But what about a threesome making out in public? Why not that? What about an old person and a 12 year old? Presumably there is some combination of things that we think is over the line at some point, and trying to figure out where that is a source of constant rethinking. But in this day and age, it does seem reasonable that if straight couples can do something in public, gay couples should be able to do these things too.
Often times these terms get their meaning stretched. Homophobic originally did seem to mean hatred, and racism meant either race-based hatred or a belief that one racial category was inherrently and forever superior to another. However, over time, the usage tends to shift to “an attitude or opinion you have about sex (or race) that I don’t like.”
None, but they’re both super hot.
^^Remember, too, that I did NOT say “They shouldn’t be allowed to do it.” I said “I don’t want to watch it.” I think this is a key distinction.
(edit - meant for BChad’s post. This is another key distinction.)
I understand that, and actually meant to add that I didn’t think you actually meant that (as a post before mine seemed to suggest). Then I went on to draw the distinction between the two and issues around it.