Bernanke, Thanks for your input on “love” topic. I mostly agree with you. I would say, higher education level of the masses can lead to a higher disagreement level with the official ideology. People stop “loving”, even if they don’t do anything, just talk. That’s what happened in the Soviet Union towards it’s end. That’s what is starting to happen in China. People start stop fearing to speak out in private. “Kitchen” phenomenon in the Soviet Union, where friends gathered with a bottle of vodka. One might call it “karaoke” phenomenon in China with loads of beer. However, even if there seems no one-party official ideology in the US, there are some elements of official propaganda. They easily put modern China and modern Russia in the same camp - that is the consequence of the strong pro-China and anti-Russian propaganda. These countries are not even close if to compare freedom of speech level only. I would say, China is 60ish of the Soviet Union, while Russia is closer to modern Italy rather than China.
Bernanke Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > Americans have rarely seen what brainwashing really is. have you seen jersey shore? or follow the obama election? our majority is so detached from reality they are poor, overweight, and will pay $200 for sunglasses.
mar350 Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > our majority is so detached from reality > they are poor, overweight, and will pay $200 for > sunglasses. Well now you’re just making this personal…
david brook’s response (edited): http://www.nytimes.com/2011/01/18/opinion/18brooks.html?hpw Practicing a piece of music for four hours requires focused attention, but it is nowhere near as cognitively demanding as a sleepover with 14-year-old girls. Managing status rivalries, negotiating group dynamics, understanding social norms, navigating the distinction between self and group — these and other social tests impose cognitive demands that blow away any intense tutoring session or a class at Yale. Yet mastering these arduous skills is at the very essence of achievement. Most people work in groups. We do this because groups are much more efficient at solving problems than individuals (swimmers are often motivated to have their best times as part of relay teams, not in individual events). Moreover, the performance of a group does not correlate well with the average I.Q. of the group or even with the I.Q.’s of the smartest members. Researchers at the Massachusetts Institute of Technology and Carnegie Mellon have found that groups have a high collective intelligence when members of a group are good at reading each others’ emotions — when they take turns speaking, when the inputs from each member are managed fluidly, when they detect each others’ inclinations and strengths. Participating in a well-functioning group is really hard. It requires the ability to trust people outside your kinship circle, read intonations and moods, understand how the psychological pieces each person brings to the room can and cannot fit together. This skill set is not taught formally, but it is imparted through arduous experiences. These are exactly the kinds of difficult experiences Chua shelters her children from by making them rush home to hit the homework table. Chua would do better to see the classroom as a cognitive break from the truly arduous tests of childhood. Where do they learn how to manage people? Where do they learn to construct and manipulate metaphors? Where do they learn to perceive details of a scene the way a hunter reads a landscape? Where do they learn how to detect their own shortcomings? Where do they learn how to put themselves in others’ minds and anticipate others’ reactions? These and a million other skills are imparted by the informal maturity process and are not developed if formal learning monopolizes a child’s time. So I’m not against the way Chua pushes her daughters. And I loved her book as a courageous and thought-provoking read. It’s also more supple than her critics let on. I just wish she wasn’t so soft and indulgent. I wish she recognized that in some important ways the school cafeteria is more intellectually demanding than the library. And I hope her daughters grow up to write their own books, and maybe learn the skills to better anticipate how theirs will be received.
A somewhat obtuse article, but really what does one expect from a Yalie (or, Yalie professor as the case may be)?
her husband is hawt and so is she.
Actually, she is pretty hot. There was a picture of her with her two daughters - I had to look a couple of times to figure out which was the mom.
ohai Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > Actually, she is pretty hot. There was a picture > of her with her two daughters - I had to look a > couple of times to figure out which was the mom. yeah, and she’s obviously dominant as she’s sitting on the couch with the girls and her husband is sitting alone on the floor to the side. i wonder which cabinet she keeps his sack in.
Practicing a piece of music for 4 hours is insane, if it’s just a preparation for a regular class. For a 5-year old it’s brain-damaging. She might be hot, which I don’t believe, but she’s nuts.
An interesting reply to the “Why Chinese Mothers Act Superior” article: http://www.cnn.com/2011/OPINION/01/20/lac.su.tiger.mother.scars/index.html?hpt=C1
^^I was just going to start a new thread on that article. It was going to be titled “Hey Chinese Mom, Suck on This!”
bchad Wrote:
> An interesting reply to the “Why Chinese Mothers > Act Superior” article: > > http://www.cnn.com/2011/OPINION/01/20/lac.su.tiger > .mother.scars/index.html?hpt=C1
now i remember why i stopped going into the ‘international’ section of the supermarket
I think all her daughters will need is a dose of nuppal.
More interesting commentary on “Why Chinese Mothers Act Superior” http://www.nytimes.com/2011/01/20/books/20book.html?src=me&ref=general
ohai Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > I think all her daughters will need is a dose of > nuppal. And she needs a dose of MILF Hunter.
Wow six pgs of people writing cockily about things they don’t know anything about (excluding Topher). Let’s try seeing what is there. Back way out and understand. Places like China and Korea have like 6000 and 2000 years of culture. Things have evolved to the way they are, things that didn’t work died off along the way. That’s how time works. Then you have the USA, and it is like what, 200yrs old, a bunch of newbies who think they know everything, none of which has stood the test of time. Newbs trying things like living on mc chicken fried nugs, men acting like women and women acting like men, and everyone taking loads of perscription drugs to cover the symptoms of the lifestyle not working. Yet plenty of time to yap about “Chinese mothers”. There are many things that none of us in the West are ever going to understand. Also it is Friday so who cares!
Also I would just like to state for the record that Chinese mothers are hot, and hot way into their 50s, I just interviewed a lady I haven’t seen in 5yrs, and she actually lost 10yrs of age. Rice and miso I guess, mad respect.
purealpha Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > Wow six pgs of people writing cockily about things > they don’t know anything about (excluding Topher). > > > Let’s try seeing what is there. Back way out and > understand. Places like China and Korea have like > 6000 and 2000 years of culture. Things have > evolved to the way they are, things that didn’t > work died off along the way. That’s how time > works. Then you have the USA, and it is like > what, 200yrs old, a bunch of newbies who think > they know everything, none of which has stood the > test of time. Newbs trying things like living on > mc chicken fried nugs, men acting like women and > women acting like men, and everyone taking loads > of perscription drugs to cover the symptoms of the > lifestyle not working. Yet plenty of time to yap > about “Chinese mothers”. > > There are many things that none of us in the West > are ever going to understand. Also it is Friday > so who cares! Good point purealpha! Our system is completely broken, that is why in 200 years a bunch of newbies (310MM) eating chicken nuggets created a nation with a a lower infant mortality rate, higher literacy rate, higher life expectancy at birth and higher TOTAL GDP than a much more advanced and wiser Chinese population of 1.3B with a 2000 year head start that flattens its protesters with tanks. Not to mention that China has been McDonald’s highest double digit growth market for the past decade while sales in the US and Europe have been faltering, actually declined in 2009. Maybe if you’d seen emaciated people earning $200 dollars a year trying to build a highway using wheelbarrows instead of bull dozers in Guangzhou you wouldn’t be romanticizing as if it’s all “Love in the Time of Cholera”. Gawd my brain hurts from pondering things I am never “ever going to understand”.
purealpha Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > Also I would just like to state for the record > that Chinese mothers are hot, and hot way into > their 50s, I just interviewed a lady I haven’t > seen in 5yrs, and she actually lost 10yrs of age. > Rice and miso I guess, mad respect. Yeah, except Miso is Japanese.
Black Swan Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > > Yeah, except Miso is Japanese. Not according to Stanley Kubrik in Full Metal Jacket. 