Is it just me, or this level of violence is completely inappropriate for TV? Why does porno rate more restrictive than violence?
Can you repeat that? I couldn’t hear you over the sound of Lucille’s direct skull hits.
It’s the Big Pron lobby obviously. They want to control all access to sex media and are responsible for perpetuating such stereotypes as the one where following a transition to a certain color, you cannot thereafter return.
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Bravo.
I stopped following the show after the second season but read about this season and watched some scenes. I had this discussion at work just a few days ago. It’s all inflation / desensitized. In real life, roadside billboards get bigger and bolder to avoid your latent noise filter. On TV, violence and content has slowly grown through desensitization and one-upmanship akin to an ISIS video. After the Red Wedding (another show I don’t watch but did watch the scene just to keep up with social happenings) the gloves just came off. It’s been brewing for awhile now following some of the other HBO content, The Shield ending and Sons of Anarchy. It’s about creating buzz and ratings and that has essentially come down to who can create the most “oh my God that’s so disgusting… I have to see it” moment, which is essentially the click bate of TV where you tune in because of a headline then find yourself mentally anesthetized watching the next 10 episodes for the conclusion. It’s just producers sitting around saying, “Oh my God, how about a baseball bat and his wife’s there, but wait, no, she’s pregnant and lets crush his jaw…” it has nothing to do with adding to the plot and is just a cheap ratings ploy since CGI has been played out. Cheap thrills for small minds, we’re late cycle in the current social construct.
Pron is more restrictive than violence because we’re a society with Protestant roots vs mainland Europe. Coming from a Protestant background it’s all simple work ethic, righteous violence over suppressed “animalistic” urges which has since been twisted. Initially, sex was viewed as a very pure thing and non-Biblically sanctioned sex is viewed as a corruption of a pure concept, whereas violence is essentially always tainted so portraying it is simply showing a something that is in it’s nature corrupt.
Isn’t the show mostly following the comic?
is TWD the best lockdown show that I havent gotten a chance to see?
The comic has far more violence, as well as other messed up stuff like rape and necrophilia. If the TV show held back on graphic violence, it would be accused of neutering the series. In general, yes, the graphic violence is gratuitous, but clearly that’s what people want to see. The purpose of the show is entertainment, not some social message.
Is the necrorape about dudes raping dead chicks or dead dudes raping living chicks? Inquiring minds…
^ I don’t think dead dudes can do the raping. If you mean zombies, that’s f*cked up.
I’ve been told on countless occasions i look like Shane from TWD and because of this i’ve watched a few episodes and i agree, its extremely violent. I would say pron is more damaging to society (well, at least after reading the no fap posts).
Well, the scene I remember from the comics is the guy kept his daughter chained up as a zombie and made out with the zombie daughter. The raping is human on human, some gangrape and also forced cuckold stuff. There might have been other stuff, but it is hard to remember, since the comic is so long. The author actually spends a lot of time on dialog discussing the characters’ philosophy and motivations, and how the society is supposed to work, but I sometimes skip over that stuff. I’ve only seen a couple of episodes of the TV series, to be honest. It seems like a big commitment.
Popular society has become so coarse (violence, sex, language etc), yet university students need safe spaces in order to avoid being offended. I find it strange that a person is okay with what they see on TWD, yet he is offended by a person wearing a sombrero at a Halloween party.
The Red Wedding was written over 12 years prior to airing. I am not sure how they could do that scene/story with the same story impact without the visuals. That event changed the course of the war.
The Walking Dead comic is much, much more graphic and disturbing than the show. I am relatively desensitized but almost stopped watching when it came to the Governor. I was very happy they toned down The Governor vs Michonne storyline by 95% because the original is just sickening. Ohai will know what I’m talking about. I stopped reading it because it was over the top in disturbingness. Great comic though.
It’s nice to know people can still pass judgment about the value add of things without a firm grip on source and derivative materials though.
I actually knew that and read the plot synopsis for the comic before posting (and am aware of how graphic it is). You skipped highlighting the part where I mentioned I have read about it (using the comic book storyline synapses). I do the same thing with GOT on occasion, reading through the written storyline summaries while occasionally watching clips on youtube to know what the hell people are talking about at work without wasting my life on idiotic television or collecting a stack of comic books next to my action figures. It’s still nice to know you can be a smug asshat about my opinion while making assumptions though.
Everybody is aware that GOT in particular deviates massively from the written content at will, there’s no obligation to remain identical. What I am discussing is how things are depicted and what is selected for televised audiences rather than purely the plot. In other words, they could have had filmed those scenes with more cutaway and implied the violence without reveling in it. Alternately, you could even point back to the original selection of source material.
Read your first post again and call me a smug a$$ hat again.
And yeah, absolutely, plot synopses and storyline summaries are direct equivalents to the watching the show and hearing every conversation word for word. Especially in GOT where the nuances, imagery, and foreshadowing are such large parts of the show. Your understanding of the content is only as good as the author of the synopsis, and that’s assuming you read every episode’s synopses for the past 5 seasons. That’s like saying you climbed Mount Everest but you really used Google Map Street view.
Look, is it too graphic and violent? Sure - I don’t enjoy watching sometimes, but I don’t agree with your point that the visuals are useless and add no value to the show itself. It creates a ton more thrill, suspense, conversation and entertainment (which is its purpose), than doing it off screen and leaving it open to interpretation.
I re-read it. You’re still a smug asshat (ironic that you censored a$$ in this discussion). I don’t have to watch every “nuance” of the kill scene of the red wedding or each “nuance” of Glenn’s eye popping out of socket or the “nuance” of the guy clubbing Abraham’s head after he’s been dead for two or three strikes to get any more information. It has little value add to the plot, particularly on a cost / benefit scale. I didn’t say visuals are useless and add no value to the show, those are your words. I also didn’t say that I somehow have as much understanding of the show as fan boys dancing around comic con or that reading summaries is a direct equivalent to watching the show. I simply responded that I have a reasonable grip on the interplay between the source materials and the scenes I’m referring to (which I’ve watched). I’m simply saying it’s a cheap thrills ploy akin to special effects and that it’s gotten worse (through source selection and directorial decisions and that is my opinion. I also referenced SOA and the Shield which I had watched start to finish although I view those as minor offenders.
Also, on a semi-unrelated note, if you’re Abraham and you’re up first, why don’t you rush him and at least try to get some form of blow in (head butt or otherwise). How is dying on your knees like a sheep any better than going down in action.