https://www.thetoptens.com/best-president-of-the-us/
im confused. isnt this the only president who actually destabilized the country to the point of civil war… why is this guy so revered by our time…
^Bro, you need to history. Hard.
Abraham Lincoln pursued a contentious policy and was assassinated as a result. It’s good to see a President who stands up for his beliefs, unlike Crooked Hillary who would only pander to key voters and those who “pay to play”. Lock her up!
Claim: Abe Lincoln is “the only president who actually destabilized the country to the point of civil war”
Verdict: FALSE
The seven southern states succeeded before Lincoln took office.
Within a month of the presidency they had raised and mobilized a military, launching their first attack. In the Cornerstone speech, the Vice President of the CSA said the cornerstone of the Confederacy “rest[ed] upon the great truth that the negro is not equal to the white man; that slavery – subordination to the superior race – is his natural and normal condition. This, our new government, is the first, in the history of the world, based upon this great physical, philosophical, and moral truth.” Succession was based not solely on Lincoln’s victory but also “the magnitude of those victories. Republicans captured over 60 percent of the Northern vote, and won three-fourths of its Congressional delegations. The Southern press said that such Republicans represented the anti-slavery portion of the North, “a party founded on the single sentiment…of hatred of African slavery”, and now the controlling power in national affairs. The “Black Republican party” could overwhelm conservative Yankees. The New Orleans Delta said of the Republicans, “It is in fact, essentially, a revolutionary party” to overthrow slavery.” Prior to the election, secessionists had already declared “the Union without slavery, or slavery without the Union.”"
Lincoln was democratically elected to stand against slavery and the South attacked the North, destroying themselves and him over it only after he had prevailed.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Confederate_States_of_America#Secession
Claim: The seven southern states succeeded before Lincoln took office.
Verdict: FALSE
Seven states _ seceded _ (from the union) before Lincoln took office, but that has nothing to do with their success or failure.
(This fact checking stuff is fun!)
They succeeded in seceding.
Yeah, technically they still succeeded.
Does it count as a successful secession if you lose the subsequent struggle to enforce your secession?
so people looked up to him because he imposed his beliefs/will on the people? sounds a bit dictatorial no?
^this is some of the worst trolling I’ve seen.
They succeeded at seceding but where unsuccessful at remaining seceded.
He didn’t end slavery. The Emancipation Proclamation was aimed at only the southern states to tell the slaves they were free when really they weren’t. The slaves weren’t free from the south until the north regained complete control, so until then the only thing the emancipation proclamation did was say, “we can’t stop the south from keeping you a slave, but you have the right to run away.” After the war, slavery still existed in the northern states, but it wasn’t as prevalent as it was in the south.
In the eyes of foreigners, the south was viewed as “freedom fighters.” The Emancipation Proclamation effectively made the south look like they only wanted one thing- slavery. This stopped the British from aiding the south.
not trolling at all. i get slavery is wrong, but 750k americans lost their lives (much more than ww2, also the us population was 30m). time and a place imo. a good leader would have been able to convince the south to return peaceably by conceding points.
people credit him for strengthening the central government, not exactly what the founding fathers envisioned, plus its not exactly hard when you have killed your opponents.
https://www.civilwar.org/learn/articles/civil-war-facts
look at donald trump, terribly controversial, yet no civil war. lol
Nery, where are you getting your info? Keep researching. Hard.
Being head of the country also means providing vision and leadership. It’s not about running a regression on popular opinions and manicuring your speech to its most statistically acceptable form. That’s not leadership - that is just winning an office because you want a good seat for yourself. That’s why Crooked Hillary lost. No one will vote for you because of your slogan “Hillary!”. Where is the vision? Where is the leadership. Trump’s vision is a bit weird, but at least he has one. Hillary expected to just write her name on the SAT score sheet and get a 1600.
Nerdy, you’re like 24 years old, right? That would go a long way to explaining this thread.
what’s the implication on 24 yos?
im just trying to understand why he was so beloved. i dont get it.
ending slavery by race = great vision
long civil war = terrible leadership
civil war was inevitable
Slavery was a deeply ingrained institution upon which the South depended for their way of life. No leader, however great, would be able to avoid war when going about such a massive fundamental change.
In the face of so much adversity and repeated failure, Lincoln persevered and ultimately succeeded.
OP is trying really hard to be edgy.