Americas Best Colleges according to Forbes

http://www.forbes.com/2009/08/02/best-colleges-ratings-opinions-ranking-2009_land.html Thought I’d bring up this disaster of a ranking system again this year.

1 United States Military Academy NY 0 1,263 2 Princeton University NJ 49,830 1,243 3 California Institute of Technology CA 48,990 236 4 Williams College MA 49,530 540 5 Harvard University MA 50,250 1,666 6 Wellesley College MA 50,026 596 7 United States Air Force Academy CO 0 1,286 8 Amherst College MA 50,230 439 9 Yale University CT 51,400 1,318 10 Stanford University CA 51,760 1,703 11 Massachusetts Institute of Technology MA 50,100 1,048 12 Swarthmore College PA 50,381 372 13 Columbia University NY 51,406 1,356 14 Centre College KY 39,200 336 15 Haverford College PA 51,637 327 16 Boston College MA 52,060 2,167 17 Northwestern University IL 52,120 2,078 18 Bowdoin College ME 50,570 488 19 Vassar College NY 51,370 638 20 Whitman College WA 46,212 401 21 University of Chicago IL 53,310 1,306 22 Kenyon College OH 49,260 456 23 Carleton College MN 50,000 489 24 Colby College ME 50,120 482 25 Middlebury College VT 52,460 576

Just noticed my school dropped 46 spots in a year

Definitely a little different way of ranking schools: “Our college rankings are based on five criteria: graduation rate (how good a college is at helping its students finish on time); the number of national and global awards won by students and faculty; students’ satisfaction with their instructors; average debt upon graduation; and postgraduate vocational success as measured by a recent graduate’s average salary and alumni achievement. We prize the undergraduate experience and how well prepared students are for the real world rather than focusing on inputs such as acceptance rates and test scores. Our data are from publicly available sources rather than surveys filled out by the schools themselves” Both my undergrad and grad school this year had meteoric rises vs. '08. College really costs over $50k these days? Dang.

Yeah, I read that article a couple of days ago. My impression is that they assumed that everyone was a juvenile delinquent. I mean, why is an 11.30 curfew a good thing? I was regularly out working until 3 AM when I was in college.

by *working*, i hope you mean your next notch on the ol’ college bedpost. if anything else, you really missed out on some good years buddy.

bannisja Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > graduation rate (how good a college is at helping > its students finish on time); I’ve always been proud of my alma mater for the fact that it has a low graduation rate. Shit happens and graduating people who lost motivation, had a breakdown, or didn’t belong there in the first place shouldn’t be something that’s rewarded.

How ridiculous, Tulane ranked higher than Johns Hopkins and Cornell

I knew I should’ve gone to Whitman College.

1 United States Military Academy NY 0 1,263 2 Princeton University NJ 49,830 1,243 3 California Institute of Technology CA 48,990 236 4 Williams College MA 49,530 540 Talk about comparing apples and oranges.

My school went from top 15 to the 130s in one year. Ha! What a joke. Top 15 was generous but 130s is far too low. .

mine did a similar reversal top 25 to top 125

The only public entries are the military service schools. Few other public schools are in the list and far down in ranking. Do facts or just Forbes’ philosophy cause this?

So what’s up with companies using graduation rates as a criteria for rankings? Does this mean that if 100% of people pass the CFA program, it would be a better program? I thought good programs are supposed to be challenging. If the programs are challenging, it is inevitable that some people will fail.

They use the ratings on ratemyprofessor.com as a criteria for rankings. These rankings are a joke and the folks at Forbes should be ashamed of themselves.