toronto is competitive normally, but in this economy, competition to get a front office job is at a new high point… frankly, if you don’t have a CFA/MBA (insert good school) OR gold plate ivy league (harvard, Wharton, MIT) type education OR gold plate work experience (Goldman Sachs, Morgan Stanley, Citadel, etc.) OR connections OR prior front office experience with arguable evidence that you weren’t the bottom 10% that got cut, you can forget about getting an interview 9/10 times. throw in the influx of brand name talent repatriating themselves to canada, a simpleton GTA joe CFA bloke is just not going to cut it for a front office opportunity unless it is for a tier 3 firm, that said you may have a shot at processing settlements in a mutual fund middle office which just goes to show 1) how inanely competitive Toronto is for CFA grads, and 2) how ludicrously spoiled Toronto firms are as for montreal, just as competitive as toronto, also forget about it if you are not francophone calgary - not as tightly wound as Toronto on qualifications, but in this market with calgary lay offs creeping up, need oil & gas finance experience to make it happen vancouver? good luck, not going to happen word of advice, for a meaningful career in finance, go elsewhere ie. china, india, etc. etc.
boom_or_bust Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > Semper Augustus Wrote:> > > Same thing as in Europe. > > > > Anyways, forget canada for finance. Unless you > > belong to an extremely small minority of > finance > > graduates/CFA candidates, you’ll end up selling > > mutual funds to retail customer. > > Don’t know how you see your career, but you > don’t > > need a CFA for such low-level crap. > > You don’t even need a university degree. > > This is the truth about the Canadian market right > now. I’m leanring German and trying to get a job > over in Europe now. It’s not working out. My friend, this is a crazy coincidence : - I am Canadian - I did learn German - I did move to Germany - I did find a decent job there !!
yipikiyay Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > toronto is competitive normally, but in this > economy, competition to get a front office job is > at a new high point… > > frankly, if you don’t have a CFA/MBA (insert good > school) OR gold plate ivy league (harvard, > Wharton, MIT) type education OR gold plate work > experience (Goldman Sachs, Morgan Stanley, > Citadel, etc.) OR connections OR prior front > office experience with arguable evidence that you > weren’t the bottom 10% that got cut, you can > forget about getting an interview 9/10 times. > > throw in the influx of brand name talent > repatriating themselves to canada, a simpleton GTA > joe CFA bloke is just not going to cut it for a > front office opportunity unless it is for a tier 3 > firm, that said you may have a shot at processing > settlements in a mutual fund middle office which > just goes to show 1) how inanely competitive > Toronto is for CFA grads, and 2) how ludicrously > spoiled Toronto firms are > > as for montreal, just as competitive as toronto, > also forget about it if you are not francophone > > calgary - not as tightly wound as Toronto on > qualifications, but in this market with calgary > lay offs creeping up, need oil & gas finance > experience to make it happen > > vancouver? good luck, not going to happen > > word of advice, for a meaningful career in > finance, go elsewhere ie. china, india, etc. etc. You Sir, know exactly what you are talking about. +10
I was unemployed in Vancouver for 11 weeks this year. I did 250 resumes without a single callback.
You didn’t send me one
> > Anyways, forget canada for finance. Unless you > belong to an extremely small minority of finance > graduates/CFA candidates, you’ll end up selling > mutual funds to retail customer. > Don’t know how you see your career, but you don’t > need a CFA for such low-level crap. True no barriers to entry on the retail side. Education matters less that selling skills on that side. But you would be shocked by the number of brokers and wholesalers that have their MBA and or CFA.
Semper Augustus Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > My friend, this is a crazy coincidence : > - I am Canadian > - I did learn German > - I did move to Germany > - I did find a decent job there !! Get in touch outside the board? I obviously have questions I’d love to ask if you don’t mind. The awkward sentence to hide the email address from spambots is below. “Spammersaway” at the domain that google uses. You know at gmail dot com. Yes. “Spammersaway” really is the email address. Let me know if you do decide to get in touch by replying, so I can check my spambox too.
NByz Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > I was unemployed in Vancouver for 11 weeks this > year. I did 250 resumes without a single > callback. Wow, that’s a bummer. But don’t hang your head and cry, stick in there. What are your plans now that you must have send resumes to every department in every bank in V.BC.? Are you gonna relocate or stay in the place and pursue another career?
boom_or_bust Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > Semper Augustus Wrote: > -------------------------------------------------- > ----- > > > My friend, this is a crazy coincidence : > > - I am Canadian > > - I did learn German > > - I did move to Germany > > - I did find a decent job there !! > > Get in touch outside the board? I obviously have > questions I’d love to ask if you don’t mind. > > The awkward sentence to hide the email address > from spambots is below. > > “Spammersaway” at the domain that google uses. You > know at gmail dot com. > Yes. “Spammersaway” really is the email address. > > Let me know if you do decide to get in touch by > replying, so I can check my spambox too. Sure, we can get in touch if I can be of any help. But you won’t mind if we do this after the exam ? I promess i ll write to you after the exam. cheers.
^ I think Semper Augustus is lying - he spelled promise wrong.
Semper Augustus Wrote:> Sure, we can get in touch if I can be of any help. > But you won’t mind if we do this after the exam ? > I promess i ll write to you after the exam. > > cheers. No problem. I’m asking you for a favour, so any info is appreciated. It’ll give me more time to think up questions anyway. 
sublimity Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > ^ I think Semper Augustus is lying - he spelled > promise wrong. Rofl. You really do follow me everywhere. Next step for you: move to Germany.
Semper Augustus Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > sublimity Wrote: > -------------------------------------------------- > ----- > > ^ I think Semper Augustus is lying - he spelled > > promise wrong. > > > Rofl. > > You really do follow me everywhere. Next step for > you: move to Germany. > > A man crush is all it is.
NByz Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > I was unemployed in Vancouver for 11 weeks this > year. I did 250 resumes without a single > callback. Where did you find work ?
joeobrieneire Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > Thanks for the replies. kinda wish I was still > single so that I could fck off over to Shanghai or > Hong Kong, as was my original plan. > > boom_or_bust Wrote: > > > >You don’t even need a university degree. > >This is the truth about the Canadian market right > now. I’m leanring German and trying to >get a job > over in Europe now. It’s not working out. > > Which isn’t working out? The finding a job in > Europe? best of luck anyway and I hope you make it > over here; the EU needs all the brain drain it can > suck up. Sorry. I missed your reply, but was re-reading this thread because I posted it in another thread. Finding a job in Europe is not working out. It’s brutal over there too. I’m looking at applying to some grad. schools in Europe for 2010 because I’d really like to live in Europe.
Semper Augustus Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > yipikiyay Wrote: > -------------------------------------------------- > ----- > > toronto is competitive normally, but in this > > economy, competition to get a front office job > is > > at a new high point… > > > > frankly, if you don’t have a CFA/MBA (insert > good > > school) OR gold plate ivy league (harvard, > > Wharton, MIT) type education OR gold plate work > > experience (Goldman Sachs, Morgan Stanley, > > Citadel, etc.) OR connections OR prior front > > office experience with arguable evidence that > you > > weren’t the bottom 10% that got cut, you can > > forget about getting an interview 9/10 times. > > > > throw in the influx of brand name talent > > repatriating themselves to canada, a simpleton > GTA > > joe CFA bloke is just not going to cut it for a > > front office opportunity unless it is for a tier > 3 > > firm, that said you may have a shot at > processing > > settlements in a mutual fund middle office > which > > just goes to show 1) how inanely competitive > > Toronto is for CFA grads, and 2) how > ludicrously > > spoiled Toronto firms are > > > > as for montreal, just as competitive as > toronto, > > also forget about it if you are not francophone > > > > calgary - not as tightly wound as Toronto on > > qualifications, but in this market with calgary > > lay offs creeping up, need oil & gas finance > > experience to make it happen > > > > vancouver? good luck, not going to happen > > > > word of advice, for a meaningful career in > > finance, go elsewhere ie. china, india, etc. > etc. > > > You Sir, know exactly what you are talking about. > +10 I agree --> Toronto is a horrible job market; you can sit there and get a carrot dangled in front of you for peanuts, get as educated as you want and still earn nothing… Glad I got out and moved back to NYC; even with the meltdown here job prospects are soooo much better. Not to mention the extreme snobbishness of T. for the social scene…most T dotters think their sh!@ doesn’t stink --> most of the time you have to be on your A++ game to hookup; the NYC social scene is much more relaxed even with the extreme wealth floating around here.
Why did you move to Toronto from NYC in the first place.
Very young and parents were transferred to Toronto.
I’d like to know why moving to "…Vancouver…one of the few places my girlfriend can work. " What is it your gf does that she can only work in Toronto? Does she have a work visa from her company? Does she belong to the mafia and they shipped her there to work?
Keys Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > Semper Augustus Wrote: > -------------------------------------------------- > ----- > > yipikiyay Wrote: > > > -------------------------------------------------- > > > ----- > > > toronto is competitive normally, but in this > > > economy, competition to get a front office > job > > is > > > at a new high point… > > > > > > frankly, if you don’t have a CFA/MBA (insert > > good > > > school) OR gold plate ivy league (harvard, > > > Wharton, MIT) type education OR gold plate > work > > > experience (Goldman Sachs, Morgan Stanley, > > > Citadel, etc.) OR connections OR prior front > > > office experience with arguable evidence that > > you > > > weren’t the bottom 10% that got cut, you can > > > forget about getting an interview 9/10 times. > > > > > > > throw in the influx of brand name talent > > > repatriating themselves to canada, a > simpleton > > GTA > > > joe CFA bloke is just not going to cut it for > a > > > front office opportunity unless it is for a > tier > > 3 > > > firm, that said you may have a shot at > > processing > > > settlements in a mutual fund middle office > > which > > > just goes to show 1) how inanely competitive > > > Toronto is for CFA grads, and 2) how > > ludicrously > > > spoiled Toronto firms are > > > > > > as for montreal, just as competitive as > > toronto, > > > also forget about it if you are not > francophone > > > > > > calgary - not as tightly wound as Toronto on > > > qualifications, but in this market with > calgary > > > lay offs creeping up, need oil & gas finance > > > experience to make it happen > > > > > > vancouver? good luck, not going to happen > > > > > > word of advice, for a meaningful career in > > > finance, go elsewhere ie. china, india, etc. > > etc. > > > > > > You Sir, know exactly what you are talking > about. > > +10 > > > I agree --> Toronto is a horrible job market; you > can sit there and get a carrot dangled in front of > you for peanuts, get as educated as you want and > still earn nothing… > > Glad I got out and moved back to NYC; even with > the meltdown here job prospects are soooo much > better. Not to mention the extreme snobbishness of > T. for the social scene…most T dotters think > their sh!@ doesn’t stink --> most of the time you > have to be on your A++ game to hookup; the NYC > social scene is much more relaxed even with the > extreme wealth floating around here. Either your said game is pretty pathetic or your Fugly. Toronto/GTA as a city has a very diverse selection of women relative to most other cities in the world and most of them are pretty down to earth . The ones that arent are wannabe kardashians,paris hiltons that you would’nt want to waste time over anyways .