Stern is a piece of shit too. He is a manipulator and degrades women. I can’t even listen to his show. But I’m sure he has banged a lot of his female guests backstage before / after the show. Being in a position of power and dominance is what is most attractive to women regardless of the context or presentation. It’s easier to have that power is you have no shame and don’t mind degrading women. You can label it with moral qualifications but that is all subjective. It may not work for all women, but it works much more broadly than you want to give it credit for.
Actually, forget about women, the same principles work for men in a non-sexual context (such as the work place). A lot of CEOs use the same tactics to maximize productivity of their employee base. This is why sociopaths are disproportionately represented at the highest levels of Corporate America, because it works.
You’re confusing his on-air persona with his real-life personality. Yes, he absolutely could have banged thousands of women by now, but that’s not his style. The guy can hardly stand being in public. It’s just an act.
Again, I’m not arguing that these sort of stupid things work, but I am arguing they work for trashy people to find trashy people. Prove me wrong rather than just issuing blanket statements.
Your analysis of Stern on his show is not reflective of any account of his personal life. Based on watching Saving Private Ryan Tom Hanks is a war hero and apparently Stephen Colbert is a devout republican that really loves O’Reilly. There’s no evidence that sociopaths are abusive or disrespectful, in fact in many cases its the opposite as social integration separates them from phsychopaths. Tryannic is far from any list of personality traits frequently found in CEO’s in any study.
Reading this has been such a cathartic experience lol. And it explains so much about a past relationship… not the part about radio hosts but selfish amoral jerks masking themselves and then being little shits. Wow. How blind I was.
Sorry i am going back, but re: women and fashion- I used the term fashion there loosely (ok incorrectly), and I meant more in the sense of outward appearance independent of genetics, which includes fashion yes, but also cleanliness, put-togetherness, etc. I agree women mostly dress for other women, or rather, she dresses based on her own rating method which is derived from other women’s judgements. But I can’t be convinced that men have no opinion re: non-genetic related appearances. Someone mentioned sweatpants, but seriously do you realize the range of sweatpants. There are sweatpants which are >100$, and sweatpants that make you think wow she’s had a hard life. I think everyone knows which one was referenced.
Regarding why some women seem to fall for jerks that treat them like crap using PUA or related techniques, I agree that when it happens repeatedly, it tends to happen because these women feel insecure and I suspect they think that being able to reform a bad boy will stand as objective proof for all to see that they are lovable and/or loved. I think there is an element of “yeah, he treats other women like crap, but look, he prizes me. This means I’m that loveable, because he treats me specially!”
Except the reality is that most of the time he doesn’t prize her, or he starts by making her feel that way and then slowly starts treating her more and more like crap, which not only doesn’t work out the way she wanted, but makes her feel even less valued, making her feel more insecure.
I don’t think all, or even most women are like that, but there is most definitely a group who is. And there are men who fall for a similar dynamic in reverse.
Ehh, not gonna argue with you anymore, it’s always a rabbit hole that devolves into personal attacks while you talk yourself into hysterics. Your opinion about trashy and stupid is subjective. Thanks for sharing your opinion.
By the way, I’m not advocating that type of behavior, just acknowledging it works and that it works a lot better than you want to give it credit for, and for a much wider audience. You seem to be personally offended by that.
I don’t see personal attacks or hysterics anywhere in what I wrote, feel free to point them out (Unless you’re calling my views on Leykis a personal attack?). If my views are subjective, I don’t know what that makes your… facts? I don’t recall seeing any numbers or studies cited on your end. Obviously every qualitative or subjective trait must therefore be irrelevant.
Anyhow, I accept your defeated apology and declare victory once again on the cynical manchildren of the metropolitan dating scene. Onward Ho!
The funny thing is that many self proclaimed “sensitive” guys who play inside the friend zone and attend vagina monlogues or insert [activity] with girls who they secretly want to get with are usually the worst of the whole bunch. They hang around with girls they secretly want to get with under the pretense of being just friends, usually because she is already taken and they are trying to put themselves first in the queue when things go sour.
I know many of you reading this are probably thinking, thats not me, I respect her boundaries. If the attraction is there, you are bound to be that guy at some point. Yet another example of why guys can’t be friends with chicks. Acquaintances sure, but just ask yourself, how would you feel if your girlfriend/wife had a best guy friend that she hung out with when you were not around. Whose shoulder is she crying on when the two of you are having issues?
I think If I were a woman I would prefer the jerk who is honest about his intentions. Also realize the fact that you can’t be just friends with a man who you know has/had feelings for you those sort of feelings don’t just go away because want to be “just friends”
Is the choice only between lying jerk that lies about his intentions and honest jerk that is…honest? Then yes, all else equal obviously would prefer honest guy, but jerks are always jerks and not worth anyone’s time.
I think the sensitive types are irritating beyond belief. It’s the me me look at me, I’m not as bad as everyone else now go have sex with me. Manipulative, and usually has chip on shoulder. There’s a female equivalent too, the “I get along with guys but not women” girls.
Also many men confuse confidence with arrogance. In the end, humilty, honesty, intelligence… I can forgive a beer belly if he has those three (just beer belly mind you, not beer+chicken+pretzels+everything else since 17+body odor+no personal hygiene, never never forgive body odor)
It had nothing to do with women. I was just saying I, male, have plenty of other male friends in which none of us has a strong interest in watching sports (perhaps with the one exception of combat sports), or sitting around drinking all day.