Caught!

[Mzungu]

@ohai

@brain\_wash\_your\_face

@ohai

lxwarr, thank you for what I assume is a serious reply. I still do not fully understand though. Facilitating the poor behavior of others also falls under someone’s personal responsibility. Let’s say I sell guns to African warlords knowing they will shoot people. Certainly, this violence is a symptom of political instability or other problems in the region, and the warlords would be more responsible for this violence than me. However, by my personal evaluation, I would still be at least partly responsible for what my arms dealing enabled.

Maybe we can introduce more gray area by saying bchad, iteracom and I are competing arms dealers. If I refused to do business with the warlord, he would just buy the same guns from bchad or iteracom. This removes the causal effect of my actions. So, the question then becomes: do I have implicit moral responsibility to not participate in perverse systems?

Comparing this to adultery: the scenario is materially different depending on whether 1) The spouse is a slut and would sleep with people even if you abstained, or 2) The spouse only wants to have sex with you. I could understand how someone might say 2) is morally wrong but 1) is not. Based on my personal values, both are wrong; we are all responsible for minute contributions to greater harm. However, for emphasis, that is just my opinion.

Since you asked, yes, my online and offline personalities are very similar.

While I agree with your morality vicerally, these situations are all far too simplistic. If you know that the government kills children in warzones and you pay taxes which support the military, then you are directly contributing to the murder of children. You should move to a country that doesn’t do these things or you should stop paying taxes and face the consequences.

I did not say that we can or should completely abstain from amoral activity. This would be virtually impossible. In addition, an action’s morality should be determined based on its total effect. By allowing the existence of the US government, we allow it to commit certain acts with negative effects. However, this does not mean that we should abolish the USA; the loss of US contributions to global culture an commerce would be overwhelmingly negative.

Indeed, the real world applications of morality are often complicated to discuss and difficult to comprehend. For this reason, it is useful to analyze the concept of morality based on a simpler models: for instance, the choice of whether or not to profit from the actions of a warlord. As you surely know, simplified models are widely used in social sciences, like economics, to explain concepts which are not always completely realistic, but can still help explain things in the real world.

The OP’s scenario is another conveniently simple example given the lack of extraneous variables. If we were to add unstated factors, such as the husband’s infidelity, psychological trauma, impaired judgment due to alcohol, or others, the scenario would become more complicated. OP does not provide this additional information though.

No point in over analysing what is a simple situation - neither does it reflect on my morality or lack of it - I was in a compromising situation and made the wrong call. That’s all.

[Mzungu]

@itera

@bchad

In my experience, it’s tough to say no to a hot married woman who is stradling you and telling you how much she wants you. However, it can be done.

I’ve always felt that if you cheat with a married or otherwise attached woman, you give up all right to be upset if your girlfriend or spouse does that to you. That’s usually been enough to keep me from messing with married women (though separating women get a pass in my book).

I agree with this. Op, you are guilty here. maybe she was more, but you had the power to walk away. unless she physically held a gun to your head and forced you to do it.

Yes - the thing I learned is not to be in a compromising situation again.

[Mzungu]

@krnyc2008

@Mzungu

@krnyc2008

I think single people who sleep with married ones have self esteem issues…

I was single.

I didn’t chose to sleep with her. She chose to sleep with me. Note the difference.

She wanted to sleep with me but with some ulterior motive, which I didn’t know.

Where does self esteem come in here?

Unless she tied you up and forced you, it was your decision as much as hers, albeit probably made based on emotions rather than reasoning. Doesn’t exempt you of responsibility though…

I don’t know what motivated you to go for it, but you are saying you didn’t like your boss, and he was obviously in a position of power. Sleeping with his wife could have been your way of (consciously or not) getting back at him…

No, I didn’t do this to spite him. It is more of a coincidence I never liked him. It is rare for a white blonde to fall for a black dude, that is what crossed my mind - what was going on here. As a black dude and from Africa, you probably have a better chance of being hit by lightining than a hot HCB tell you she likes you, leave alone have sex with you. That is why when all this is put in context - I feel less guilty.

You can’t understand this if you are white, but even the blackfellas over in states will tell you the first time they laid a white girl (not the chubby ones CFAvMBA bangswith self esteem issues).

[poop]

@Mzungu

Yes - the thing I learned is not to be in a compromising situation again.

How about learning a little self control instead? I once found myself in a compromising situation that I had no clue was coming and walked away. Simple as that.

[Mzungu]

@Turd_Fergeson

Yo Mzungu - what kind of car do you dirve??

VW Golf.

[itera]

Now it’s just sad. Your defense has changed to: I’m a black guy, and she’s a white chick, and that’s why I feel less guilty about sleeping with the married women?

[Palantir]

This thread is worthless without pics…

[geo]

@Mzungu

@geo

I think its important to note there were emails and an ongoing affair. That’s substantially different than a passionate encounter. Personally I’m not morally ok with either, but the OP saying he had no control over the situation is pure BS. I could buy that if it was a one off, but it wasn’t as evidenced by his earlier posts.

No, the emails were after the event. You do not make love to a woman and assume it never happened, do you?

Or I would have pretended nothing happened?

Reading your first post here, I think you’re changing your story. This doesn’t seem to be a one time event. You claim you broke off the affair when you got a wife. That doesn’t sound like once in the car on a stormy night sort of deal…

And in this case, yes, I would have pretended like it never happened. But I also wouldn’t have been in this situation either.

[igor555]

LOL dude trolled all of you

[tjack82b]

Why do black people always have to bring up race? I’m a white guy and would have little to no chance of banging a woman like Aisha Tyler but don’t declare it’s because I’m white. Banging hot blondes is just as rare.

[stormyhotel]

[quote=“krnyc2008”]

@Greenman72

I agree with Lxwarr on this one. If she’s bound and determine to bone someone, it might as well be me. But this is predicated on the fact that you don’t know the husband.

/quote]

Quite “selective” moral compass…

The way I think about it is I’d never do anything that I wouldn’t want to be done to me,.

I thought they both done what they wanted done to each other…

[krnyc2008]

[quote=“stormyhotel”]

@krnyc2008

@Greenman72

I agree with Lxwarr on this one. If she’s bound and determine to bone someone, it might as well be me. But this is predicated on the fact that you don’t know the husband.

/quote]

Quite “selective” moral compass…

The way I think about it is I’d never do anything that I wouldn’t want to be done to me,.

I thought they both done what they wanted done to each other…

I am guessing you are being ironic here?

And if not… What I meant is I would never knowingly f…ck anyone’s husband (or fiance, or bf) because I always picture how I would feel if I was that wife (fiancee, gf). Karma is a b…tch

[Mzungu]

@itera

Now it’s just sad. Your defense has changed to: I’m a black guy, and she’s a white chick, and that’s why I feel less guilty about sleeping with the married women?

No, being black has nothing to do with this - it is just not very common. And I highlighted earlier that she did mention that was her fantasy.

For some context - my wife would have been less forgiving, if say, she was black. That the western culture is more liberal with sex is obvious.

[Mzungu]

@tjack82b

Why do black people always have to bring up race? I’m a white guy and would have little to no chance of banging a woman like Aisha Tyler but don’t declare it’s because I’m white. Banging hot blondes is just as rare.

Really? Race was in the very first page of this thread - and I am not saying I black so I am not guilty. I am just saying it happened because I was black, it surprised me that it happened and I didn’t think it would happen.

[Mzungu]

@igor555

LOL dude trolled all of you

If I could make all these stuff up I probably wouldn’t be an accountant.

[jcole21]

Now I know this is bs white chicks don’t bang corny brother accountants. If you were a bsd like cvm it’d be more legit.

well trolled.

[Griingo]

@itera

reminds me of a scenario I heard back in school:

There is a runaway train. On the tracks, there are five people tied up and unable to move. The trolley is headed straight for them. You are too far to rescue them, but you are standing next to a lever. If you pull this lever, the trolley will switch to a different set of tracks. Unfortunately, you notice that there is one person on the side track.

What do you do?

(1) Decide not to be involved, and the trolley continues forward and kills the five people on the main track.

(2) Get involved, pull the lever, diverting the trolley onto the side track where it kills the innocent person there.

I’m sure I read somewhere recently that there have been studies on this and overwhelmingly people choose to act rather than do nothing, even if the numbers are flipped.

[Greenman72]

@itera

reminds me of a scenario I heard back in school:

There is a runaway train. On the tracks, there are five people tied up and unable to move. The trolley is headed straight for them. You are too far to rescue them, but you are standing next to a lever. If you pull this lever, the trolley will switch to a different set of tracks. Unfortunately, you notice that there is one person on the side track.

What do you do?

(1) Decide not to be involved, and the trolley continues forward and kills the five people on the main track.

(2) Get involved, pull the lever, diverting the trolley onto the side track where it kills the innocent person there.

As stupid as it sounds, I would probably not get involved and watch five people get run over.

If I do #1, then I have no legal liability. After all, I didn’t set the train in motion. And I’m powerless to stop it. I can just watch the blood and guts fly, then go on with the rest of my life.

If I do #2, then the family of the one innocent person can press charges for manslaughter, and I’ll get 10-20 years in a federal slammer, getting sodomized by many gang-bangers at once.

Four extra lives lost, but one butt left uscathed.

[igor555]

great thread.

1. franky sounds like a cool dude

2. bring stormy back

3. its now legal in south korea: http://www.cnn.com/2015/02/26/asia/south-korea-adultery/index.html