It looks like what this pastor is planning to do is protected by the Consitutions. But if he were a CFA charger holder, would he violate any CFA ethnics or code of conducts by burning the Quran? Thoughts? Comments? --------------------- The leader of a small church in the US state of Florida says he is determined to go through with his plan to burn copies of the Quran on September 11, despite an international outcry against it. Terry Jones, the pastor, said on Wednesday that he has received encouragement for his protest, with supporters mailing copies of the Islamic holy text to his church in Gainesville. The plan is to incinerate the Qurans in a bonfire on Saturday to mark the ninth anniversary of the September 11, 2001 attacks on New York and Washington. “As of right now, we are not convinced that backing down is the right thing,” Jones said. ‘Death threats’ Jones said he has received more than 100 death threats and has started wearing a gun since announcing his plan to burn the book that Muslims consider the word of God. ‘Anti-Muslim’ incidents The US Justice Department is investigating incidents where Muslim places of worship have been targeted in July and August in areas across the country. A Muslim cab driver in New York City had his face and throat slashed in August, in a suspected hate crime. A fire broke out at the site of a future mosque in the state of Tennessee, in July, where local residents gained permission to build a new mosque after outgrowing their rented space. A brick nearly smashed a window at the Madera Islamic Centre in central California, in August, where signs were left behind that read: “Wake up America, the enemy is here.” Authorities suspect arson when a fire broke out at the Dar El-Eman Islamic Centre in Arlington, Texas last month. The 58-year-old pastor proclaimed in July that he would stage ‘International Burn-a-Quran Day.’ The plan has already sparked protests in Afghanistan and Indonesia and US officials are worried that it will put Americans at risk. General David Petraeus, the US and Nato commander in the Afghan capital, Kabul, warned that “images of the burning of a Quran would undoubtedly be used by the Taliban in Afghanistan, to inflame public opinion and incite violence”. Petraeus spoke on Wednesday with Hamid Karzai, the Afghan president, about the matter, according to Colonel Erik Gunhus, a military spokesman. “They both agreed that burning of a Quran would undermine our effort in Afghanistan, jeopardise the safety of coalition troopers and civilians,” Gunhus said. David Axelrod, senior adviser to Barack Obama, the US president, told CNN on Wednesday morning: “The reverend may have the right to do what he’s doing but it’s not right. It’s not consistent with our values …” “I hope that his conscience and his good sense will take hold.” The Vatican also denounced the planned Quran burning as “outrageous and grave”. Right to free speech Jones gained some local notoriety last year when he posted signs in front of his church declaring “Islam is of the Devil”. But his Quran-burning idea attracted wider attention. It drew rebukes from Muslim nations and at home as an emotional debate was taking shape over the proposed Islamic centre near the so-called Ground Zero site of the 2001 attacks in New York. His actions likely would be protected by the US constitution’s right to free speech. The US Supreme Court has made clear that speech deemed offensive to many people, even the majority of people, cannot be suppressed by the government unless it is clearly directed to intimidate someone or amounts to an incitement to violence, legal experts have said.
Will there be marshmallows?
I am not sure how this can possibly be a CFA ethics question, but this pastor is clearly out of his mind. Moron Pastor, CFA is in violation of I(D) - Serious misconduct. III(B) of fair dealing, when he will favor his non muslim clients over muslim clients . III© of Suitability, where he will violate his Muslim client’s policy statements and buy OTC BB stocks on their retirement accounts just to screw them. List goes on and on. Basically CFA institute can take away his charter even without holding a panel hearing.
I don’t think so, but he’s definitely being a doosh.
Even B.O. got into this hot potato topic… B.O. is better off focusing on the economy and jobs, etc.
Nope. This is pretty much the exact same example as the one that’s been in the CFAI books for several years - the woman gets arrested at an environmental protest/animal right rally - no violation.
In violation of being dangerously stupid.
The pastor is irresponsible, insane, stupid… But what’s B.O. administration doing here admonishing him for excercising his consitutional right, albeit a crazy move on the pastor’s part?
AlphaSeeker Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > The pastor is irresponsible, insane, stupid… > > But what’s B.O. administration doing here > admonishing him for excercising his consitutional > right, albeit a crazy move on the pastor’s part? Exercising his first amendment rights?
Doesn’t B.O. have better things to do? E.g. fix the economy, create more jobs, or at least help his many fellow Dems to minimize the ineviable defeat at mid-term elections? We didn’t elect him to exercise his freedom of speech… Right?
AlphaSeeker Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > Doesn’t B.O. have better things to do? > > E.g. fix the economy, create more jobs, or at > least help his many fellow Dems to minimize the > ineviable defeat at mid-term elections? > > We didn’t elect him to exercise his freedom of > speech… > > Right? Well it worked he won’t be burning any books on Saturday.
Ha! you gave B.O. too much credit… The pastor is an attention grabber… B.O. fell for it. “It’s the economy. Stupid.”
Majority of posts on this thread are coming from the OP. Unsuccessful troll is unsuccessful.
Naked, other than your rant, do you have any view or substance? Are you for B.O.'s socialist, ineffective policies so far? Or a more economy-friendly capitalist market approach? That’s what invetors care about…
Could you please copy and paste the “rant”, as I am having trouble locating it. I also can’t find any socialist polices enacted under the current administration. He hasn’t raised taxes, or proposed to do so (partly because the President doesn’t propose laws). He hasn’t nationalized any companies. Tax rates in this country, even if the Bush tax cuts were allowed to expire for everyone, would remain lower than they were under Reagan. He has reduced government input and oversight into many federal regulatory agencies, something the Bush administration was famous for meddling in. Has barely mentioned gun control as a legislative topic, despite all the panty-bunching among gun nuts after his election. It couldn’t be the case that you’re just parroting talking points with no substance, could it?
NakedPuts Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > Could you please copy and paste the “rant”, as I > am having trouble locating it. > > I also can’t find any socialist polices enacted > under the current administration. He hasn’t > raised taxes, or proposed to do so (partly because > the President doesn’t propose laws). He hasn’t > nationalized any companies. Tax rates in this > country, even if the Bush tax cuts were allowed to > expire for everyone, would remain lower than they > were under Reagan. He has reduced government > input and oversight into many federal regulatory > agencies, something the Bush administration was > famous for meddling in. Has barely mentioned gun > control as a legislative topic, despite all the > panty-bunching among gun nuts after his election. > > > It couldn’t be the case that you’re just parroting > talking points with no substance, could it? You’re absolutely right. There were no changes made to anything, like… Health care? Absolutely right - nothing signed into law. Thanks for the clarity NakedPuts. I will agree that I’m not catching the ‘as advertised’ rant, but I’ll have to disagree with your ridiculous statement regarding NO socilaist policies brought into law under this administration.
Wiki: Socialism is an economic and political theory advocating public or common ownership and cooperative management of the means of production and allocation of resources. What exactly is socialist about the health care bill? Which companies were nationalized? Are they being forced into the cooperative management of the means of production? Even if you take away the gains from their stocks being in the toilet to begin with, most health insurance company stocks were flat to up during the debate and passage of the bill. Unfortunately, just because Fox News says it’s socialist doesn’t make it so.