Anybody catch the hour long infomercial for HBS last night on CNBC? What a load of crap. From one alum stating that HBS saving her life to another saying that without an MBA you will not be able to intelligently contribute to a business after about 5 years of work experience. Call me bitter, call me jealous…but I was overall not impressed with the featured students or the value of the $160K investment. It does seem, as the program suggested, that while law schools and medical schools can justify their existence academically and though a learned skill set; MBA programs are justifying themselves based on a brand and network, since leadership is more of a personal characteristic than a learned skill set.
I saw it on Hulu. It’s over a year old. Besides, who cares anyway. If you don’t like the idea of an MBA, don’t get one. You don’t have to bash people who wish to pursue one. IMO, the $160K rolodex will turn out to be one of the best investments that those guys ever made.
Yea it’s pretty old, but one person had cancer and started and developed foundation that created a cure for her, and yes saved her life. I think it’s pretty impressive. Another person who said you need MBA after 5 years is CEO of Blackstone, and I think it’s a very valid point he made. If you are not impressed with 160k investment and the alums, no one is dragging you into HBS. Go do better than them (if you can). And it’s exactly correct, MBA is not about technical skills, it’s 2 year long cocktail hour. The better that place (read school) for the cocktail hour the better the crowd, the better your opportunities. And no, you don’t need MBA to become rich or successful, but I would imagine it helps to be surrounded by intelligent motivated overachievers from wide variety of backgrounds for 2 years. Lastly it is about brand, kinda like CFA (I know it’s a strech). But when you go for interview you don’t need to explain what Harvard MBA is, many doors just open.
spope Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > Anybody catch the hour long infomercial for HBS > last night on CNBC? What a load of crap. From one > alum stating that HBS saving her life to another > saying that without an MBA you will not be able to > intelligently contribute to a business after about > 5 years of work experience. > > Call me bitter, call me jealous…but I was > overall not impressed with the featured students > or the value of the $160K investment. I find it funny you are “not impressed with the featured student or the value of the $160K investment” after a 1-hour CNBC program. Really - you gleamed all that from a 1-hour show? Do you get tricked into buying all those infomercial products too? Oxyclean and Shamwow must love you. Go to the school, visit classes, talk with students - do your research before making a blanket statement like that.
if you have kids/babies you will soon realize Oxyclean is an amazing product that can clean almost any stain. I don’t work for Oxyclean, just a user of their product
Oxyclean is a great product…
kevinf12 Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > Oxyclean is a great product… Hah, so I heard…hah
Well, I am not so sure about Harvard B school and wealth these days. I think the deck might be stacked in favor of Stanford B school on that front.
Auburn Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > Well, I am not so sure about Harvard B school and > wealth these days. I think the deck might be > stacked in favor of Stanford B school on that > front. On average, Stanford Business School graduates earn more money than Harvard Business School graduates. I’m not sure why this is - it might be affected by location.
wangta01 Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > spope Wrote: > -------------------------------------------------- > ----- > > Anybody catch the hour long infomercial for HBS > > last night on CNBC? What a load of crap. From > one > > alum stating that HBS saving her life to > another > > saying that without an MBA you will not be able > to > > intelligently contribute to a business after > about > > 5 years of work experience. > > > > Call me bitter, call me jealous…but I was > > overall not impressed with the featured > students > > or the value of the $160K investment. > > I find it funny you are “not impressed with the > featured student or the value of the $160K > investment” after a 1-hour CNBC program. Really - > you gleamed all that from a 1-hour show? Do you > get tricked into buying all those infomercial > products too? Oxyclean and Shamwow must love you. > > > Go to the school, visit classes, talk with > students - do your research before making a > blanket statement like that. I think your Oxyclean and Shamwow analogy argues against your point. The CNBC “documentary” was a star-studded informercial that was terribly superficial and left the OP feeling it was not worth shelling out $160K.
Jscott24 Wrote: > I think your Oxyclean and Shamwow analogy argues > against your point. The CNBC “documentary” was a > star-studded informercial that was terribly > superficial and left the OP feeling it was not > worth shelling out $160K. I’m not impressed with either Oxyclean or Shamwow - and yes, I’ve used both. So agree to disagree? Hearing about how someone overcame cancer or whatever - how is that superficial? Perhaps the OP should judge less based on an hour of info from the news equivelant of an infomercial. If he/she is disgusted so much - easy solution, just don’t apply - problem solved!
Funny how none will sign the Ethics oath. I think you should be required to have a CFA or chartered certificate to practice in certain areas of finance where ethics is involved, much like law and medicine. You need a law degree to create business formation papers or prescribe a drug that is going to be OTC in 3 years but you dont need jack for education to manage someones life savings while being incentivizes by your company to push their crap CDOs? Yeah whatever.
How many people actually enter gainful employment after their degree, and then save and apply to go to Harvard and pay themselves? - many, many, many. My company is full of them. Diminishes everything. Pay for a name.
wangta01 Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > Jscott24 Wrote: > > I think your Oxyclean and Shamwow analogy > argues > > against your point. The CNBC “documentary” was > a > > star-studded informercial that was terribly > > superficial and left the OP feeling it was not > > worth shelling out $160K. > > I’m not impressed with either Oxyclean or Shamwow > - and yes, I’ve used both. So agree to disagree? > Hearing about how someone overcame cancer or > whatever - how is that superficial? Perhaps the > OP should judge less based on an hour of info from > the news equivelant of an infomercial. If he/she > is disgusted so much - easy solution, just don’t > apply - problem solved! the cancer segment had as much egg and batter as a Michael Moore flick
Jscott24 Wrote: > the cancer segment had as much egg and batter as a > Michael Moore flick You’re a pretty compassionate guy I see…
Did an MBA at a low ranked Canadian University and got exactly what I paid for. No rolodex of contacts and not even a first look or door open.
Hello Mister Walrus Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > Auburn Wrote: > -------------------------------------------------- > ----- > > Well, I am not so sure about Harvard B school > and > > wealth these days. I think the deck might be > > stacked in favor of Stanford B school on that > > front. > > On average, Stanford Business School graduates > earn more money than Harvard Business School > graduates. I’m not sure why this is - it might be > affected by location. I don’t say I disagree but unless you personally tracked income of every graduate for following 5-10 years, you can’t make this statement.
Yea it’s pretty old, but one person had cancer and started and developed foundation that created a cure for her, and yes saved her life. I think it’s pretty impressive. Another person who said you need MBA after 5 years is CEO of Blackstone, and I think it’s a very valid point he made. If you are not impressed with 160k investment and the alums, no one is dragging you into HBS. Go do better than them (if you can). And it’s exactly correct, MBA is not about technical skills, it’s 2 year long cocktail hour. The better that place (read school) for the cocktail hour the better the crowd, the better your opportunities. And no, you don’t need MBA to become rich or successful, but I would imagine it helps to be surrounded by intelligent motivated overachievers from wide variety of backgrounds for 2 years. Lastly it is about brand, kinda like CFA (I know it’s a strech). But when you go for interview you don’t need to explain what Harvard MBA is, many doors just open. Sad, sad post my friend. Don’t know what you mean about brand after you’ve mentioned cancer and the ‘alums’ in your post. Pretty old. Intelligent motivated overchievers - sounds like the guys who manage my company, but still still live along side their massive egos. Cannot change the way of life.
cdiem Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > Sad, sad post my friend. Don’t know what you mean > about brand after you’ve mentioned cancer and the > ‘alums’ in your post. Pretty old. Intelligent > motivated overchievers - sounds like the guys who > manage my company, but still still live along side > their massive egos. Cannot change the way of > life. Cdiem - you’re getting sucked into the HBS stereotype. Go there and visit, you’d be surprised - most students are not cocky at all and pretty well grounded.
How bout dude with the sweet earring on his left ear! what a tool