busprof:
A little personal history here (not that it matters):
I was pretty much a guts runner in HS - this was back in the 70s (yeah, I’m an old dude). I couldn’t break 60 seconds for the quarter if you held a gun to my mother’s head (and I like my mom). But being a nerd, I read up on training quite a bit (I think I was the first kind in my conference to have a subscription to Runners World), and it clicked the the summer before my senior year. I put in 50-60 miles a week all through fall (ran extra on weekends) and the winter, did a lot of hard pace running in the spring, and ended up with a 4:45 for the mile and 10:03 for 2.
I ran X-country for UCONN for 2 years as a walk-on before I realized that the others on the team were so much more talented than I was that I was redlining just keeping up with them in practice, and I kept getting injured. So I dropped off the team and decided running the trails and competing once a month or so in the then-nascent road running scene was more my style.
Got an arthritic knee at age 40 and had to kiss running goodbye, so now all I do is cycle about 100-150 miles a week in the warm months.
As for times, it’s not that big a thing for an athletic (and relatively skinny) guy in his teens or 20s to go under 5:30 for a mile (for a woman, it’s pretty damn impressive). As you get closer to 5 flat, it seems to get exponentially harder. Someone running a 9:50 deuce is worlds ahead of a guy running 10 flat, for instance.
And KMD - I doubt I’d lap you, because I’d probably enjoy the company too much
you seem like a great guy, guy
so you’d put $5k cash on the fact that I can’t break 6 in the Sept 2017 NYC chip timed 5th Ave mile?
causseeee I like easy money
ok went all out. under 7 for sure, 6 is going to require some luck.
now off to ice my lower body
Does anybody here jog based on their heart rate? I just started monitoring mine and have slowed way down to get in the aerobic range. I just jog for general fitness. Seems some of you are fairly knowledgeable on the subject. Is there any reason I should jog any faster than the aerobic range? Definitely more enjoyable slowing it down. I’m in my early forties. I jog a few times a week. 3.25 miles.
KMeriwetherD:
busprof:
Former coach (and competitive runner) here - ran 1 10 flat two mile in high school, and ran college cross country for a few years, and then road races until I hit thirty, and life got int the way.
Given what your goals are, the key is to first build up distance, then work on pace. Work up to 45 minutes or so at a time at a comfortable pace - that means one where you can hold a conversation (not an easy one, but not gasping for breath). If that means stopping and walking for 50 yards every quarter mile, so be it. The key is to build up the cardiovascular system, and that means (1) time, and (2) keeping the aerobic load (i.e. heart rate) low enough so that you’re building the aerobic system.
Once you can comfortably run for 45 minutes, then work on pace - once or twice a week, run a bit faster for a quarter mile at a time (given your goal, this would be about a 7 to 7 1/2 minute per mile pace), and then run comfortably in between to recover. Do this for a half-dozen reps or so, with a quarter or half mile in between each for reocvery. The benefit of intervals is that they help make you more efficient - you can go slo with a really crappy form, but going faster forces efficiency, and that helps at ALL paces.
When you do your eventual run, take your time - treat the run like the race starts at the half-way point. This keeps you from blowing your wad early - it’s a common thing for newbies to go out too fast.
Good luck.
Don’t bother, dear. Intelligent running plans with a sound foundation in base building, patience and injury prevention are lost on these bros. Good plan though…and until now, pretty sure I had the fastest mile PR on here . You would probably lap me
Lol, what’s that 1 mile PR?
Nvm, just read that you extrapolated a PR that equated to a training pace of mine. Soo hacksaw.
My bad BS pace as your mile PR. I"m guessing you don’t actually have one to give us since when you focused on running it was longer distance stuff?
But whatever… the past is the past . This is NOW. I’m doing the 5th Ave mile. Last year I did 5:34, but this year I’m going to organize my training and try for 5:20… or faster!!! Now, who is going to beat me???
KMeriwetherD:
My bad BS pace as your mile PR. I"m guessing you don’t actually have one to give us since when you focused on running it was longer distance stuff?
But whatever… the past is the past . This is NOW. I’m doing the 5th Ave mile. Last year I did 5:34, but this year I’m going to organize my training and try for 5:20… or faster!!! Now, who is going to beat me???
Haha, I’m liking the trash talk. Really hoping I can make it this year for a good AF showdown. Would be a lot of fun.
Me too BS
KMeriwetherD:
My bad BS pace as your mile PR. I"m guessing you don’t actually have one to give us since when you focused on running it was longer distance stuff?
But whatever… the past is the past . This is NOW. I’m doing the 5th Ave mile. Last year I did 5:34, but this year I’m going to organize my training and try for 5:20… or faster!!! Now, who is going to beat me???
Not me. Got goaded into running a Rugged Maniac later this summer and started training over the weekend. While running was never my thing, my efforts were pathetic as I didn’t manage to get under 20 minutes for 2.2 miles either day.
^ I am rather ashamed of myself. I’m thinking of getting my junk reattached so I can hacksaw it off again.
I’ll put my dough on KMD. Swan sounds like he’s got potential (and more fast-twitch muscle fiber), but given that KMD trains more regularly, she should be much lower variance in her times.
And sub-5:30 for a woman who’s almost Masters category (at least, from what I recall) is no joke. Respect.
Like I said before, 6 minute miles is considered “perfect” for male marines. For females, it’s 6:30. (Three miles)
KMD will destroy that bald headed monkey
just realized this never posted.
…still won’t work from phone. For the record I’m going to get my mile time down (working on speed for a bit). Maybe I’ll see y’all in Sept. I’ll let you know where I end up.
I had some really good 12mph interval sessions on treadmill yesterday
just realized this never posted.
…still won’t work from phone. For the record I’m going to get my mile time down (working on speed for a bit). Maybe I’ll see y’all in Sept. I’ll let you know where I end up.
Oh good! You’re in too.
I was going to start a thread where we can post our mile training workouts and such. I have started with some pre-focused training as of last week.
Did you know the right way to pronounce igor is actually yi gor ?
Oh good, you’re running too SCB. Thanks for stepping up.
… somewhere along the line we mistook you saying 5:15 pace as your mile PR. I"m guessing you don’t actually have one to give us since when you focused on running it was longer distance stuff?
I’m not one of those people who HAS to win, but I love competition. Helps me be my best which makes me happy.
