any claims must be chip timed.
#thatsTheRule
#WhosGonnaBreak5First
Like I hope one of us breaks 5 in the next 5 years - would be classic
Id put my money on BS. I’d still like to do it too but is challenging… but I like a challenge
Yeah that’s a great guide, but I for one face certain constraints. I would prefer to maintain a high amount of upper body strength, which limits speed. After seeing BS last week I can testify he is in a similar position as he’s a pretty muscular dude, which makes sense in his times @190lbs versus the average 170lb or 160lb runner. My goal isn’t to be toothpick thin and break 5min. My goal is to maintain strength and get lean to break 5, which is slightly more difficult, but possible.
^i hear ya. I like this challenge. I’m at 6’1 215. I’ll do a 5 min mile at 200lbs in 1 year
That wiki was lame.
bs only worked out 3 times in the last 6 months
been busy, plan is to do a miler either tomorrow or saturday
I’ll take the over on igor regarding a 6:00 minute mile.
Ended up doing a 9 mile run/hike in Mission Trails park for the San Diego trip. 2500 ft of elevation gain.
Former coach (and competitive runner) here (just to give bona fides) - ran a 10-flat two mile in high school, and ran college cross country for a few years, and then road races until I hit thirty, and life got int the way.
Given what your goals are, the key is to first build up distance, then work on pace. Work up to 45 minutes or so at a time at a comfortable pace - that means one where you can hold a conversation (not an easy one, but not gasping for breath). If that means stopping and walking for 50 yards every quarter mile, so be it. The key is to build up the cardiovascular system, and that means (1) time, and (2) keeping the aerobic load (i.e. heart rate) low enough so that you’re building the aerobic system.
Once you can comfortably run for 45 minutes, then work on pace - once or twice a week, run a bit faster for a quarter mile at a time (given your goal, this would be about a 7 to 7 1/2 minute per mile pace), and then run comfortably in between to recover. Do this for a half-dozen reps or so, with a quarter or half mile in between each for reocvery. The benefit of intervals is that they help make you more efficient - you can go slo with a really crappy form, but going faster forces efficiency, and that helps at ALL paces.
When you do your eventual run, take your time - treat the run like the race starts at the half-way point. This keeps you from blowing your wad early - it’s a common thing for newbies to go out too fast.
Good luck.
45 min wtf
Don’t bother, dear. Intelligent running plans with a sound foundation in base building, patience and injury prevention are lost on these bros. Good plan though…and until now, pretty sure I had the fastest mile PR on here. You would probably lap me 
nice!
Running theory is highly debated. Some things work well for some, not others. Key is hard work, persistence, and avoiding injury.
I had 5:18, BS said he had 5:10-15, you had faster?
When I was running college track we ran the 1500. My PR was 4:54 (equivalent to a 5:12 mile)
oh ok impressive 
— getting close to that 5
I really don’t believe any of these times. Sound like bullish!t. Busprof and kmd, ok perhaps, because they’re talking about bygone glory days, but I doubt most of you guys can break six on flat road today. Lots of talk about low fives and breaking five, but really? Pics or it didn’t happen.
No way in hell ACE comes close to a 5 let alone a 6
A little personal history here (not that it matters):
I was pretty much a guts runner in HS - this was back in the 70s (yeah, I’m an old dude). I couldn’t break 60 seconds for the quarter if you held a gun to my mother’s head (and I like my mom). But being a nerd, I read up on training quite a bit (I think I was the first kind in my conference to have a subscription to Runners World), and it clicked the the summer before my senior year. I put in 50-60 miles a week all through fall (ran extra on weekends) and the winter, did a lot of hard pace running in the spring, and ended up with a 4:45 for the mile and 10:03 for 2.
I ran X-country for UCONN for 2 years as a walk-on before I realized that the others on the team were so much more talented than I was that I was redlining just keeping up with them in practice, and I kept getting injured. So I dropped off the team and decided running the trails and competing once a month or so in the then-nascent road running scene was more my style.
Got an arthritic knee at age 40 and had to kiss running goodbye, so now all I do is cycle about 100-150 miles a week in the warm months.
As for times, it’s not that big a thing for an athletic (and relatively skinny) guy in his teens or 20s to go under 5:30 for a mile (for a woman, it’s pretty damn impressive). As you get closer to 5 flat, it seems to get exponentially harder. Someone running a 9:50 deuce is worlds ahead of a guy running 10 flat, for instance.
And KMD - I doubt I’d lap you, because I’d probably enjoy the company too much 
. Gotta love a smart, tough lady with a set of wheels on her. Ah, if I were only single and 15 25 years younger.