Fear of living in poverty

[S2000magician]

@Black_Swan

When our 1 year old had a hip issue that required monthly >$500 visits to the hospital it definitely hurt the bottom line. I’d hate to be one of the many parents out there struggling to make ends meet and unable to afford high end treatments that could improve their kid’s outlook.

When our first son was born, we had no medical insurance, and it was a complicated birth (a hair’s breadth from a Caesarian).

It took us almost two years to get the pink slip on him.

I know whereof you speak.

[Analti_Calte_Equity]

@ltj

Yeah. There is a pretty striking difference between minimalism and poverty.

Sure it is similar to minimalism, but it is called poverty. From the gist of this thread it seems clear that there is a difference between financial poverty and religious poverty. We had to sign contracts before entering the community to practice poverty, chastity, and obedience. For me, chastity is the most difficult of the three.

Also, some who are in financial poverty may not be able to do religious poverty. Many in financial riches feel so secure by wealth that religious poverty is all but a laugh, as they will never give up their riches.

But, we have such role models such as St. Katharine Drexel, whose father was a prominent banker in PA and left her an enormously large sum of money; she gave it all up for religious poverty.

[Yayyywork]

@Black_Swan

It’s the definition of the silver spoon when someone like ACE who can arbitrarily pursue degrees to go with his current mode of interest can take a poverty vacation to monastery where his meals and housing are all certain and known before returning to his normal life to talk about poverty. That’s simple living, not poverty.

+1000

[Analti_Calte_Equity]

Some have poverty through giving things away and others have poverty from things being taken away.

[ohai]

Yes, but I think what they are saying is that you are not poor and never were.

[el_macca17]

@Yayyywork

@Black_Swan

It’s the definition of the silver spoon when someone like ACE who can arbitrarily pursue degrees to go with his current mode of interest can take a poverty vacation to monastery where his meals and housing are all certain and known before returning to his normal life to talk about poverty. That’s simple living, not poverty.

+1000

+10000

I wish CvM was here to tell it how it is #freeCvM

[Palantir]

So fasting is like starvation

[KMeriwetherD]

You’ll never live like common people…

[video:https://youtu.be/NcBH4C5RtR8?t=2]

[Yayyywork]

@Analti\_Calte\_Equity

Some have poverty through giving things away and others have poverty from things being taken away.

I would imagine those that chose poverty being much happier than those that were given it. As with everything its the choice that makes your situation unique and the ability of you to have your parents pay for you to go train with Bear Grylls next year when you decide you really want to be a mountain climber/wilderness explorer makes all the difference.

You are “playing” poverty, not living it.

[Black_Swan]

@Yayyywork

@Analti\_Calte\_Equity

Some have poverty through giving things away and others have poverty from things being taken away.

I would imagine those that chose poverty being much happier than those that were given it. As with everything its the choice that makes your situation unique and the ability of you to have your parents pay for you to go train with Bear Grylls next year when you decide you really want to be a mountain climber/wilderness explorer makes all the difference.

You are “playing” poverty, not living it.

Hears about the 1972 Andes crash where the survivors turned to cannibalism… “there are actually a lot of benefits to the caveman diet and spending time in the outdoors.”

[Black_Swan]

@Palantir

So fasting is like starvation

@Black_Swan

@Analti\_Calte\_Equity

Living in poverty is a blessing many do not realize. The clarity of life and what life is about is never as clear as when you have to rely on the goodwill of others. The inability to go out and buy a burger and beer and need to eat beans and rice with water brings you close to God.

I voluntarily lived in poverty in community life at Madonna House in Combermere Canada for 9.5 months from 2013 - 2014. I would recommend it to anyone seeking to gain meaning in life. It is a Catholic community but they accept people of all faiths to live and work in community life. If you have no where to go and need a strong community to live, love, laugh, learn, and love God, email them for a stay and the only minimum requirement is you stay for a minimum of a week and max of a year (if you want to stay longer, you have to join).

Their motto is Pax + Caritas: Peace and Charity.

Yeah, I see what you’re saying about living in poverty being a real blessing. At our church we used to do voluntarily do a 30 Hour Famine fundraiser to raise money for starving children. What a lot of people don’t realize about starvation is that it’s a really great dieting technique and it makes you really appreciate burgers again when you go back to being a normal person immediately after. So in a lot of ways, being malnourished can really be a great cleanse.

In a similar way, camping in the summers has taught me that being a refugee can really be a great way to be in touch with the outdoors and get back to the basics.

I mean, c’mon.

Exactly.

[higgmond]

Think of it this way ACE. You’ve chosen to go swimming in the deep end of a pool knowing you can swim back to the shallow end whenever you need to. People living in poverty have been dropped in the middle of Lake Superior. Sure, some of them might manage to swim to shore or be fortunate enough to have a passing boat pick them up, but most of them will drown.

[system]

ACE you a faker. I thought you were gonna get that joint MD/MBA combo?

[Black_Swan]

@Analti\_Calte\_Equity

Right on, Ace. Tell 'em!

[Analti_Calte_Equity]

@higgmond

Think of it this way ACE. You’ve chosen to go swimming in the deep end of a pool knowing you can swim back to the shallow end whenever you need to. People living in poverty have been dropped in the middle of Lake Superior. Sure, some of them might manage to swim to shore or be fortunate enough to have a passing boat pick them up, but most of them will drown.

Ok sure that’s a reasonable analogy.

But can we agree that taking on poverty means giving up pride and taking on humility.

[Yayyywork]

@Analti\_Calte\_Equity

But can we agree that taking on poverty means giving up pride and taking on humility.

While its possible, its also possibly another way for someone to blow themselves full of a lot of hot air as well

[Black_Swan]

@Analti\_Calte\_Equity

@higgmond

Think of it this way ACE. You’ve chosen to go swimming in the deep end of a pool knowing you can swim back to the shallow end whenever you need to. People living in poverty have been dropped in the middle of Lake Superior. Sure, some of them might manage to swim to shore or be fortunate enough to have a passing boat pick them up, but most of them will drown.

Ok sure that’s a reasonable analogy.

But can we agree that taking on poverty means giving up pride and taking on humility.

I too one day hope to reach the level of humility required to go online and talk about my humility.

[Black_Swan]

@Yayyywork

@Analti\_Calte\_Equity

But can we agree that taking on poverty means giving up pride and taking on humility.

While its possible, its also possibly another way for someone to blow themselves full of a lot of hot air as well

Takes a lot of humility to trivialize other’s struggles.

[Analti_Calte_Equity]

@Black_Swan

Takes a lot of humility to trivialize other’s struggles.

Not really sure what you mean here.

[Black_Swan]

@Analti\_Calte\_Equity

@Black_Swan

Takes a lot of humility to trivialize other’s struggles.

Not really sure what you mean here.

Let me help you.

@Analti\_Calte\_Equity

Living in poverty is a blessing many do not realize.