Game of Thrones: Season 7

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#441

I think they’re still alive. If for no other reason, they’re our only point of view characters on the Wall.

As for the northern defenses and Winterfell in particular, they have Bran. He’ll probably warg into the ice dragon or something.

#442

Personally I think they’re still alive but there were quite a few people on reddit who thought they were goners.

#443

I’m beginning to doubt Bran’s importance as anything other than a messenger.

#444

I thought the point of the wall was that those guys who guard it would be helpless otherwise. If they all just die, it doesn’t seem that it will change the situation that much at this point.

When are we going to see dragon vs dragon fight scene now?

Also, so much for the “three dragons heads” theory, now that one dragon died. Unless of course, Night King is revealed to be Rhaegarys Eddardeon Targaeryn-Snow, secret basterd, lost Targaeryn heir and cousin-uncle in law of Daenarys and fourth in line to the throne.

#445

Turns out Thoros of Mir mentioned their names in Season 3.

#446

so there is a chance that all 3 targs hook up?

#447

I think Bran is supposed to warg into Rhaegal to fight Night king on Viserion. Bran has to go to the big ass tree to get a better Wifi signal though. Meera will die to wights trying to save him while he is warged then his body will get torn up and he will either get stuck in the dragon or the dragon will die also. Just a theory of course.

#448

It was revealed by the characters last episode before he left the Citadel. . . ?

#449

Sam left the Citadel knowing, but not really caring, that Rhaegar had his marriage to Elia Martell annulled and that he married someone else. He didn’t know that the someone else was Lyanna Stark. He also didn’t know that Rhaegar had a child with that someone else. Prior to speaking with Sam, Bran didn’t know that Rhaegar and Lyanna were married. Remember, he told Sam that Jon’s real name was Jon Sand, because he was a bastard born in Dorne. So, until last night no character on the show knew that Jon/Aegon was the legitimate son of Rhaegar and Lyanna.

#450

But… why did they name two kids Aegon? Did Lyanna F* up and forget?

#451

Had Robert sacked kings landing and the mountain killed Elia Martel and her children yet? It does seem really odd to name both Aegon.

#452

#453

One theory I’ve read online is that Rhaegar was obsessed with the prophecy of the prince that was promised and that he would be Aegon Targaryen. Since his marriage to Elia was annulled, the kids from that marriage were technically b a stards, so the first Aegon would not be able to carry the Targaryen name. The fact that they specifically note that the marriage was annulled, not that he divorced her, it kind of makes sense.

#454

The timeline isn’t exactly clear but it’s extremely unlikely even if Rhaegar’s son had his head bashed in that any word of this would have reached the Tower of Joy.

Plus this really messes with book stuff. I’m pretty convinced the show and books will have very different endings.

#455

Agreed, which means GRRM’s statement about a bittersweet ending might not apply to the show.

#456

This is where the show and books diverge. Rhaegar was obsessed with the prophecy but he still cared for Elia. She just couldn’t have any more kids. I think it’s very unlikely he intentionally b astardized his first two kids. Being the king (or soon to be in his mind) Rhaegar could have legitimized them anyway. Or, more likely, he would have just had two wives. The Targs did the whole b astard-then-legitimizing thing before and it pretty much ruined their house.

Edit: We can’t say b astard? That’s some pg rated stuff right there.

#457

#458

I suspect Tyrion has sold J.Snow down the river in his meeting with Cersei.

#459

Nah, hes sold Dany.

How is Dany the same age or around the same age as Jon if she’s his aunt?

#460

you know your stuff