Suppose I have total contributions to a PE fund, distributions, and NAV for every quarter. I can calculate a gross IRR for this but how is it I take into account management fees and carried interest to get to the net IRR? Let’s assume on a total basis, not deal by deal, and a 2 and 20 structure. Is more info needed? Thanks.

Is carried interest and fees also in the form of timed (negative) cash flows? If so, don’t you just input all the cash flows and solve for the rate that makes PV equal zero? I suppose it must be more complicated than that.

Yea I thought about it more…I guess it would just be management fees as a negative flow every quarter and carry for unrealized profits subtracted from the terminal value and perhaps carry for realized profits as a negative flow at time of realization…but that sounds like deal by deal to me? Isn’t there some standard thats not deal by deal and if so when do you subtract the carry from realized profits for this?

Are the distributions already net of base fees, or maybe the contributions reflect base fees payable already? If so you just have to run the splits off of these cash flows to get to net cash flows to the investor and use that to caclulate the net IRR.