How easy to work in the US for a non-american?

Saw a nice job on efinancial. I’m a UK citizen. Any special requirements needed to get a job there? Hadn’t really given it much thought before. Don’t lecture me about how tough a market it is…

You need to get a work visa. Unfortunately, this is very difficult now.

Hello Mister Walrus Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > You need to get a work visa. Unfortunately, this > is very difficult now. Isn’t a work visa only temporary? Dont you need a sponsorship for full-time jobs?

Pretty much impossible. Three possible ways that I can think of: Lottery: There is a lottery every year, I cannot remember the name, but go to Home Land Security Website and try to research for it. However, it is literally a lottery and pretty difficult to get a green card Education: Get a MBA from an American university and get a 1 year practical training visa. Get a job and pray that you do well that the company would sponsor you for an H1B visa Work sponsor: Any company could sponsor you for an H1B visa, but it is cumbersome and expensive for them. Plus unless you are a rock star in your area of expertise, they can go with any American citizen or green card holder and skip all the hustle.

packattack4 Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > > Isn’t a work visa only temporary? Dont you need a > sponsorship for full-time jobs? When a company sponsors you, they arrange for you to be issued an H1-B visa. This enables you to work in the US. Unfortunately, the US is issuing fewer of these visas due to the high unemployment rate. This means that right now, it’s particularly hard for a foreign person to work here. Like the previous guy said, unless they really like some foreign worker, they will probably just hire locally.

Muddahudda Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > Saw a nice job on efinancial. I’m a UK citizen. > Any special requirements needed to get a job > there? Hadn’t really given it much thought before. > Don’t lecture me about how tough a market it > is… You have nothing to lose from applying for this position. If your immigration status is an issue, then the hiring company won’t move forward on your application.

abacus Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > Muddahudda Wrote: > -------------------------------------------------- > ----- > > Saw a nice job on efinancial. I’m a UK citizen. > > Any special requirements needed to get a job > > there? Hadn’t really given it much thought > before. > > Don’t lecture me about how tough a market it > > is… > > > You have nothing to lose from applying for this > position. If your immigration status is an issue, > then the hiring company won’t move forward on your > application. Thanks, I thought that would be the case. It’s a global economy right? If i’m the right man for the job, i’m in. AlexP says: Pretty much impossible. AlexV says: Impossible is nothing.

last year was one of the first where work visa quotas were not extinguished until late into the year (DEC). Typically they are out w/in the first month or two- but with the downturn it was actually easier to get the visa since there were less job openings and employers had a harder time showing they couldn’t fill the position w/ a local. There are certain visas that have no quotas- one is if you are a recognized expert in your field: “O-1” Visa for Aliens of Extraordinary Ability. I know ppl who have gotten this one to work in the US.

Muddahudda Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > Saw a nice job on efinancial. I’m a UK citizen. > Any special requirements needed to get a job > there? Hadn’t really given it much thought before. > Don’t lecture me about how tough a market it > is… You might consider special visas that exist between countries. For example, the US and Australia have an arrangement where US folks can work in Australia and Ozzies can work in the US in specialty occupations. The “specialty occupations” is very broad. It is called the E-3 Visa. The UK and US have similar friendly relations so I am sure there may be an equivalent visa.

Muddahudda Wrote: > > AlexP says: Pretty much impossible. > AlexV says: Impossible is nothing. Muddahudda, I am not trying to discourage you. I am trying to be realistic. Obviously I am not familiar with your background, so maybe you could get a sponsor. I’ve gone through the entire process and currently have a green card, so I have first hand knowledge of how hard it is. Good luck

Blind dedication to an arbitrary set of actions and unrealistic expectations of success? If you ask me, he belongs in the US already!

AlexP Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > Muddahudda Wrote: > > > > AlexP says: Pretty much impossible. > > AlexV says: Impossible is nothing. > > > Muddahudda, I am not trying to discourage you. I > am trying to be realistic. Obviously I am not > familiar with your background, so maybe you could > get a sponsor. > > I’ve gone through the entire process and currently > have a green card, so I have first hand knowledge > of how hard it is. > > Good luck No worries - was just trying to be clever with a reference to that infamous IB guy, nothing more. Cheers. I know people who made it over there. Not sure I want to, just wondered if those ads are off limits.

Going down the route of applying for a job first and trying to get the employer to sponsor you will be nearly impossible I’d say unless your CV is truly stellar. Try to get a visa first and then apply. This will be marginally less difficult I’d have thought, but still extremely hard to do. Maybe apply for the lottery and if it happens, it happens.

Carson Wrote: > Try to get a visa first and then apply. well how does this work? getting sponsored by employer is very very hard, but this is plain impossible. you dont just get a visa “somehow”, and with a work authorization at that. lottery may not even work for UK nationals, there are some nations that are not eligible for it and i think UK is one of them

First question in your first phone interview will be " Are you allowed to work in the US?", so make sure to have a good answer before you even apply. If you answer “a simple No” they will probably hang up. If you answer " I’m a British citizen" they’ll probably wait for you to explain how does that help. So make sure to contact an immigration lawyer and ask about any back-door way for you to get a work permit in the US based on your citizenship. Otherwise refer to AlexP post.

It IS very hard, especially at the entry levels. I’ve been rejected at the resume screening stage by a company where I was probably 50% more qualified in terms of education and work experience than other candidates AND had an internal reference, but lacked US work authorization. The person I knew on the inside told me that unless I was *significantly* better they can’t justify considering me. When you’re MD of Blackrock UK, sure, it’ll be easy. Otherwise, what other posters said.

Mobius Striptease Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > Carson Wrote: > > > Try to get a visa first and then apply. > > well how does this work? getting sponsored by > employer is very very hard, but this is plain > impossible. you dont just get a visa “somehow”, > and with a work authorization at that. lottery may > not even work for UK nationals, there are some > nations that are not eligible for it and i think > UK is one of them Can be done… Either by marrying an american, having kids with an american, having a igh enough net worth, or creating 10 jobs and investing 500K/1mil (depending on regional market). Check immigration rules. But for most of us (myself included), employer sponsorship is the way to go.

Muddahudda, if the company is interested in you, they will take care of the visa. And by looking at your resume they probably will figure out whether you are a US citizen or green card holder or they will ask in the pre-screening. If they move forward, it means they are interested. As in every hiring situation, the candidate chosen is the best fit/qualified, etc. So like one AFer mentioned before, you have to be exceptional – not only you, every job seeker has to be. But remember some financial institutions that are TARF recipients may not be able to sponsor H1-B because the “Buy American” clause, even if they have repaied the bail-out money. I personally believe it is a sweet time for smaller companies to sponsor H1-B workers because their petitions can almost be guaranteed to be filled in this weak labor market. As for the cost, I think it is cheap. Lawyer fees: $1,000-$2,000. Application fees under $2,000 and another optional $1,000 if you employer wants to expedite the process. Claiming H1B visa expensive is really beyond me. So good luck! It never hurts to give it a try.

gth763s Wrote: > > As for the cost, I think it is cheap. Lawyer > fees: $1,000-$2,000. Application fees under > $2,000 and another optional $1,000 if you employer > wants to expedite the process. Claiming H1B visa > expensive is really beyond me. It might not be as costly as in the past, but the wild card in your prediction is lawyer fees. There are small firms that charge your quotes, but a bigger law firm will be more expensive. My company at the time only work with Dorsey and Whitney for outside consul and their legal fees were higher than $1,000 - $2,000 for my H1B. This board is full of posts discussing small issues regarding applicants and how anything knocks you out of the race for a job or an interview. Not having authorization to work in the US right now is a pretty big freaking obstacle unless your experience and education is way above the norm. To get an H1B visa the employer needs proof that the position cannot be fill with an US resident qualify for the job and at the stated salary. I can not think of a worse time in the last 20 years to do that.

I graduated from not a top 20 school in US but got a good job and my employer sponsored my H1B after the OPT was over. There are plenty of employers who do the same ( some do it to increase diversity in the workplace)---- you just have to be the right candidate. my 0.02