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They might be, and they might not be. The . . . um . . . fact that the source is anonymous doesn’t, in and of itself, make them fiction.

Perhaps they need to do that before you believe one of their facts, but they certainly don’t need to do that to make them facts. Facts are, as they say, facts. Whether you like them (or beleive them) or not.

Absolute power corrupts.

There’s really a zero percent probability that an untouchable state-backed corporate media oligopoly is NOT making up sources. Since culture/law says the corporation’s lackies are “journalists” and can not be questioned, and corporate law shields them from liability, why not. No skin in the game, no downside.

Anyone who doesn’t get this, who naively thinks maybe corporations care about truth to the plebeians over influence/profit, miserably failed the IQ test and shouldn’t be working in markets.

Interestingly, that perfectly describes the position that you’re in.

Add to that: no proof. Or even evidence.

Hmmmm.

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Nearly everyone in the world knows how this witch hunt will end and the left doesn’t see it, sad.

There’s overwhelming evidence, for anyone with objectivity and basic industry analysis skills.

American denialism is truly astounding. You guys are no different from nationalist North Koreans; joyfully consuming whatever propaganda Chairman Kim feeds you. “But there’s no evidence it’s fake, you traitor!”

What evidence do you have that the information in that specific article is false?

None, I strongly suspect.

An organization called the Center for Public Integrity successfully sued to obtain some documents relevant to the Ukraine fiasco. The pic below shows an email from an OMB official; it was sent about 90 minutes after the infamous July 25 call between Trump and Zelensky.

https://publicintegrity.org/national-security/trump-administration-officials-worried-ukraine-aid-halt-violated-spending-law/

[video:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bbixdV2F6Ts]

“If the prosecutor is not fired, you’re not getting the money. Well, son of a bitch, he got fired” - Joe Biden

It’s right there in the video, he’s saying it, not FAKE NEWS. Trump wants to investigate this and the democrats think it’s somehow Trump’s fault, sad.

President Trump wanted to make sure our aid doesn’t go to corrupt countries, unlike the last president who gave away money without any due diligence.

So . . . you’re saying that Trump’s plan was to have Ukranian officials investigate whether Ukraine is corrupt, with the understanding that if they determine that Ukraine _ is _ corrupt, they won’t receive any money.

That’s really, really stupid.

“The Democrats and Crooked Hillary paid for & provided a Fake Dossier, with phony information gotten from foreign sources, pushed it to the corrupt media & Dirty Cops, & have now been caught. They spied on my campaign, then tried to cover it up - Just Like Watergate, but bigger!” - President Trump

Cmon kids, the whole society is fake to such a degree that reality is now impossible to determine.

“The point of modern propaganda isn’t only to misinform or push an agenda. It is to exhaust your critical thinking, to annihilate truth.”

  • Garry Kasparov

this is the truth that just about everyone on here is afraid to entertain. There is a purpose to it, however, which again no one here understands.

I agree, down with windmills! :angry:

On the morning of July 25th, shortly before Trump’s call with Zelensky in which he asked Ukraine to investigate the Bidens, Fox News announced the results of this poll. Seems like a straight line from Trump watching Fox & Friends to perverting American foreign policy for his own personal benefit.

https://www.foxnews.com/politics/fox-news-poll-biden-holds-commanding-lead-for-democratic-nomination

True, and Kasparov knows this well…

He’s all over Twitter spewing propaganda about “an epidemic of white supremacists, Russia collusion, Trump not leaving in 2024 and becoming a dictator.” It’s all-out war against the public’s mind.

https://www.marketwatch.com/story/fed-study-finds-trump-tariffs-backfired-2019-12-27?mod=home-page