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#1541

incorrect - i believe both parties are responsible as i stated above but you ignored to read. also incorrect i did not vote for HRC but pat yourself on the back for guessing wrong.

if you focused on saying things like this and less on the international cabal of jet setters who are secretly ETI’s that float around on different streams of consciousness that you could defend yourself against only by meditating and such - youd be more interesting.

its also interesting that you apparently believe a vote for DJT is a vote against the system - because he isnt “establishment” even though he is the person the system benefits & has a history as a con man who is only out for himself. But sure - im sure this time he is gonna give that all up and really look out for everyone.

#1542

so you voted for trump? abstained? like i just said, this movement happens with or without trump. he can make it a peaceful transition with no bloodshed or he could take the other route. in any case, the system is going to be dismantled.

but come on, you are full on engaged in the system you half heartedly rail against because it benefits you and you can’t see yourself having a life without it. It’s ok to admit. it’s the first step towards recovery.

It’s not like you’re the only one. everyone on here serves the system to one degree or another regardless of their political leanings – the house always wins. starting to see? they want you in conflict with one another so you never think to step back to get the full picture of what’s going on. they want you in debt, unhealthy, stressed, over burdened, distracted.

think about how you spend your day. i already know what it looks like: work your ass off so you’re safe from the next round of layoffs and maybe put yourself in good position to catch a few more table scraps. gotta pay off those loans. work work work. someday it will be worth it. think of the things you’ll be able to buy, vacations you’ll be able to go on. it sucks right now, but once you get to middle management you’ll be cruising. your kids will be grown and you’ll have missed out on their youth, but they’ll be able to afford any school that will take them. one day they’ll thank you. it will be awkward to embrace them, but they’ll appreciate everything you’ve done for them.

So what if you have to work til 8, 9, 10:00 at night. It’s only temporary. When you get home, you’ll be able to enjoy a nice scotch and crank one out to the hottest new porn star after your wife goes to bed – she’s so hot and will do anything. your wife half heartedly offered you sex but you said you just want to relax on the couch. really you just want to jerk it because it’s less effort. bed by 11:00. pipes cleaned and numb. ready to attack the next day.

So what if you have to work a few weekends. if you put out now, you’ll be able to pay off your student debt early, by the time you’re 35, and then you’ll really be able to live it up. Think of all the stuff you can buy – vacations, maybe a new beamer.

“Man life really is good” you try your hardest to convince yourself every morning. “Look at all the stuff I have”. “Great job, great company”. “Fitter, happier, more productive”.

#1543

trumps admin has no interest or ability to successfully transition anything in this govt. outside the defense dept and supreme court.

https://www.npr.org/programs/fresh-air/2017/11/06/562246877/fresh-air-for-nov-6-2017-michael-lewis-on-trump-appointees-and-the-agencies-they

#1544

my advice watch porno with your wife. it’ll spice it up and get her woke!

#1545

Haha I always love when someone gets Turd to snap. Peace and love, peace and love, peace and love… exxxxplosion.

#1546

i just present the truth as i see it with no emotion. mirrors can be difficult to look into, i know. i used to be one of you guys.

#1547

couldnt be any further from the truth turd but whatever floats your boat - i have a fairly excellent work life balance considering what im paid & certainly i believe people can change the system then are in through participation in it! think of back when children worked - people fought against that and things got better via social change. unions formed and demanded better conditions and hours… people can change their environment. im not entirely sure dismantling the entire system wont cause more harm to many than slowly changing the system to benefit everyone. a radical dismantling would most certainly involve power outages, food shortages, violence, death chaos - but you being the prepper you are certainly have a bunker and 10000 cans of meat to eat and wait it out in.

#1548

really? you don’t see the same cycles repeating over and over and over again? It’s by design. meanwhile health and happiness indicators steadily decline. the saddest thing is that people have been so conditioned to accept what is given to them and call it a happy life. debt slavery is not man’s natural state. spiritual bankruptcy is not man’s natural state. sitting in front of a computer 8+ hours a day then the TV another 3 is not man’s natural state. eating synthetic ‘foods’, drugs, alcohol, porn, endless distraction, endless noise, a destroyed environment, is not man’s natural state. man is capable of so much more. life could be beautiful and abundant for every living thing. but instead we choose to engage in a system that causes us to endlessly degrade ourselves.

#1549

Ignore the negativity Turd, bludgeon them with peace and balance.

#1550

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#1551

Neat list of truisms. Did you come up with all those yourself?

#1552

And in 1790 90% of the population were farmers. And because mans natural state hasnt changed much since then, I conclude that turd would prefer we all go back to farming/herding, not using modern medicine, dying at 45 etc. You’d all embrace this if you werent servants of darkness.

#1553

see this is how willing slaves to the system react – by presenting false dichotomies.

#1554

That mindset sounds suspiciously like that of one who is a servant of darkness…

#1555

https://www.washingtonpost.com/amphtml/local/public-safety/lobbyist-says-he-was-nearly-killed-by-man-he-hired-to-investigate-seth-richs-death/2018/03/19/a4261e48-2baa-11e8-8688-e053ba58f1e4_story.html

Hahaha this story is absurd. You right wing conspiracy guys sure are crazy, TF. This one getting a lot of play in your focus groups?

#1556

Yeah

#1557

ITJ - Oh man. This reminds me of something. I was thinking about superman recently and comparing the old movie with reeves to the newer “man of steel.” I think it also shows a similar parallel and change in cultural norms over time. In the reeves version, you’ve got a guy who learns early on that even with his powers, he still can’t necessarily save his loved ones (ie his father) from death, when he dies from a heart attack after the dad tells him that he’s there for a reason and that he’s special, and is meant to do something special for the world and make it better. In the new version, you’ve got these relatively self serving pricks, with his mom telling him that he doesn’t owe anything to anyone, his dad telling him that he shouldve let all the kids in that school bus die so his powers could remain secret. I think its telling of the times that it got a lot more self centered. Popular fiction reflects the cultural norms of the time.

#1558

Agree with LTJ and Birdman. I grew up in a smaller family business in a small central PA town (population well under 1,000). I watched as small family business after small family business went under but the thing is, each of these business cared about their employees, customers and community and behaved that way. You could walk into the hardware store as a kid and put it on your parents’ tab. We rode our bikes there as probably 6 year olds alone and they told my parents we were escaping out onto the highway to watch out for us. In my life time I lost count of the number of times he paid for healthcare for employees and even random community members out of pocket, helped them out of hard times and paid people fair above market wages.

I’m not saying the whole world was like that but the rise of corporate interests over small business has turned people from human’s into cogs that exchange personal responsibility for corporate policy, worship shareholders and dehumanize themselves in the process while destroying communities. It’s not any one thing its many things that caused the cultural shift. Among them, raping the middle class on bad trade. A thing I learned about morality having grown up in that scenario is that it’s largely a luxury of the wealthy. When people are starving they’re all just organisms trying to get by. When people brag about their own morality they’re largely touting their own privilege and my father for all of his charitable giving (done humbly) would agree. It’s not to say you don’t acknowledge people living up to the duty of privilege but today the whole edifice of it has been thrown away. So today when the urban elite shit on the lack of morality among the rust belt they sold down the river on trade and opine on privilege, I wonder what they were expecting and just laugh at the ignorance.

#1559

I think most “urban” types just laugh at the hypocrisy of the “morality” of the rust belt - since those are the people who claim to be most moral in my experience. for as long as i can remember the republican party always billed itself as the party of god/family values etc etc and would attack urban types as being heathens living in filth and sin - it always amuses me to see those same people diddling kids or caught pants down banging a guy.

i think the political parties take this upon themselves and both benefit from the divisiveness - poor rural & poor urban people have more in common than poor rural & rich rural people as well as poor city & rich city. instead they get controlled into hating the other group instead of banding together to demand strong labor reforms and living wages.

#1560

You clearly missed the whole point (and I was referring to the current environment of virtue signaling). You’d have to be impressively stupid to be claiming there’s not a public urban outcry about the perceived rise in extremism, racism and what not from the rust belt (aka morality). My point (bolded below) was that “morality” is a nearly mathematical luxury tied to wealth and the decline of one regionally will effect the other. But you’re right, the urban elites don’t jerk off to their own moral superiority (these are all off of the first page of a Google search for “Morality Trump”):

“Donald Trump has a very clear attitude about morality: He doesn’t believe in it”- CNBC

“There’s a massive moral vacuum in the country right now” - CNN

“Morality is negotiable for Mr. Trump” - NY Times

“Enough is Enough! In light of Trump, Roy Moore, moral character in public life matters” - NY Daily Times

“Trump is ‘narcissistic’ with ‘no moral cure’ and ‘unfit on every level to be president’” - Newsweek

“How Donald Trump is destroying the presidency’s moral authority” - Washington Post