^ The Navy Yard is really the only location in Philly that could work.
Care to elaborate?
again. toronto, and canada, have excess talent. that is why the talent is leaving to the US. this is why UW grads are well represented at FB, MSFT, AMZN and AAPL despite being thousands of miles and another country away. we educate more people than our economy needs so we export these people to you. if you bring the jobs to the talent, the talent stays.
another thing that has gone unnoticed by most is that Canada still has much more attractive corporate tax rates. if trump and repubs can’t get anything done on that front, Canada looks like an obvious choice, as it has for numerous US companies performing corporate tax inversions over the past ten years. plus, if AMZN comes to Canada for its corporate tax rate, seeing as it will employ close to 1% of the Canadian workforce, it’d probably have some political pull and help prevent any future corporate tax hikes in Canada. if bezos wants to be emperor, he’s got a good chance in Canada.
as for office space, there is no comparing toronto to memphis so you just emphasized my point. toronto’s talent is similar to that of NY or Boston and it has commercial real estate prices and open space similar to that of Memphis.
getting some c-suite talent to toronto might be a struggle but it still might be easier than getting them to go to memphis.
this isn’t about loving canada. this is about toronto being the best place to quickly and cheaply employ 50,000 people.
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Absolutely, especially if you add in the other areas included in the MSA like Tysons, Reston, Rosslyn and it not having to be located “in” DC.
bezos is known for being a cheap guy.
also, if you don’t know what the University of Waterloo is you don’t have any sway in a conversation about technology. do you know what the University of Toronto is? that school is pretty good too.
for some cred, AMZN has put UW next to Carnegie Mellon, Johns Hopkins and the University of Southern California for a major AI research initiative.
FB has put UW next to 16 major US universities for the following initiative. strange that they’d include some obscure school that ohai’s never heard of.
btw, amazon already has an 800 person toronto office so i think that puts it ahead of memphis in the running for an hq.
DC could probably do it out in the Dulles area.
The same reasons that favor DC hurt Toronto. There’s major anti-trust litigation down the road for AMZN and being in DC may be advantageous when they’re looking to twist some arms. Certainly more helpful than being in a different country employing exactly zero congressional constituents. Unfortunately, this may trump all economic reasons.
that’s actually not a terrible argument
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welcome back BS. You just gave your identity away. Pittsburgh has gotten to be a pretty nice city though
The other locations are too small to realistically accommodate the size of project that Amazon is looking for.
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“Because of the top students and research professors at Carnegie Mellon, tech companies like Apple, Facebook, Google (500 employees) and Uber have opened offices here.” + Amazon fullfillment hub
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^^ No direct flights from Pittsburgh to Seattle though.
100%, Tysons & Reston have plenty of space.
Id imagine that could change quite immediately if Amazon were to even think of moving there.
University of Waterloo (UW) in Waterloo, Ontario is the best school in Canada for engineers. I know friends who then went on to work at FB, Tesla, started their own company in SF.
And yes, it is mostly full of Asians.
Best school “in Canada”. Ok. But when you can put your campus close to Carnegie Mellon and MIT, and be close to other metro areas with thousands of qualified workers, why arbitrarily choose to focus on Canadian graduates? FB and such hire so many engineers anyway that practically all schools are represented somehow. Georgia Tech or University of Illinois are great engineering schools too. There’s a deep talent pool even below the top tier names that people commonly use as examples.
And anyway, as I repeatedly mentioned, not all Amazon workers are engineers. Amazon will need to recruit a large, multi talented and diverse workforce. Most suitable employees of this type are in the US. It will be hard to convince them to move to Canada. What if they move from Denver to Toronto with their family, and the Amazon job doesn’t work out? It would have been great if they stayed in the US where it is more familiar and their job situation would be more flexible.
So let’s take Pittsburg as an example. It will not be that hard to move people from the NY area, or other parts of the country, to Philadelphia. It’s similar in culture, cheaper, probably better standard of living, and the move can be reversed without too much inconvenience. A significant portion of those 50k employees will be existing Amazon employees in the US. They can be incentivized to move to another US city, but probably not to Canada. Who will head the new Amazon office? Probably someone who is currently in the Top 5 people in Seattle. That guy is probably going to lobby for Denver or some place like that, not a whole different country where he will be away from the boss and their geographic business concentration.
I’m sure there are benefits to choosing Toronto, just like any city. However, it just seems like a huge pain in the @ss and no one wants to move there. Low level rank and file people can be found anywhere. However, the top 10% of the company, who will direct the office and who are the most important, are experienced workers, probably located in the US, and are probably not looking to leave the country.
Pittsburgh. It’s already being called “silicon alley”