Boy I thought his father was cuckoo but this guy takes the loon cake! Is this dude really the voice of libertarians?
Maybe of the pseudo libertarians…he’s pro life and anti gay marriage - both non libertarian stances.
So basically he is far right wing hiding behind a libertarian cloak.
ROn Pauls kid I am assuming? Kind of surprised Ron Paul even figured out where to put it to make a kid.
ASSet_MANagement Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > ROn Pauls kid I am assuming? > > Kind of surprised Ron Paul even figured out where > to put it to make a kid. I think he was an OB/GYN before politics…
I saw the clips of him on GMA and his clarification of his views was not articulated well. I do think the accusations of him being a racist are overblown. The letters to the editor he wrote in 2002 were an esoteric critique of the legitimate function of government. I am a libertarian leaning conservative and am very worried that such quixotic tendencies will hurt more than help the libertarian cause.
Here are the main talking points from his website. How is he crazy? These all sound like legit, logical arguments. I don’t like his abortion stance but I don’t know how you can call him crazy. http://www.randpaul2010.com/issues/ BAILOUTS Dr. Paul opposes all federal bailouts of private industry. America is the land of opportunity, to succeed and to fail. It’s time our government starts promoting responsibility. (View Video | Read More) INFLATION And every dollar we print to service our debt, reduces the value of the money in your pocket. Rand will fight to strengthen the value of our Dollar so our purchasing power is not destroyed by the sneakiest tax of all: inflation. (View Video | Read More) TAXES & DEBT Lowering taxes gives working men and women the ability to take control of their own lives. It allows business owners to invest in their companies, pay their employees, and create new jobs. Lower taxes encourages spending, saving, and investing – all necessary for a healthy economy. (View Video | Read More) TERM LIMITS Long term incumbency leads to politicians who seem to care more about what is best for their career than what is best for their country. (Read More) (The read more section details his belief in term limits – also puts a good argument in place) PRIVACY & LIBERTY The Federal Government must return to its constitutionally enumerated powers and restore our inalienable rights. America can prosper, preserve personal liberty, and repel national security threats without intruding into the personal lives of its citizens. (Read More) FEDERAL RESERVE Given this incredible power given to a semi-private institution, one wonders why we don’t hear more about the Fed and its actions from the Congress. As Senator I would make sure that the Federal Reserve is held accountable and restore transparency to our monetary system. (Read More) Established in 1913 by an act of Congress the Federal Reserve System controls the nation’s money supply and influences interest rates throughout the entire country. They essentially have the power to create money out of thin air—with a virtual blank checkbook its not surprising that so few in Washington are willing to question the Fed. When the Fed lowers interest rates by creating more money, not only does it devalue the money you currently have in your pocket, but it also leads to the boom-bust cycle. The Fed misleads investors into embarking on projects that make no long-term sense. Our current housing bubble was a direct result of the Fed’s decision to keep interest rates artificially lower than the market could sustain. The Fed basically spiked the punch and is now acting surprised that the party got out of hand. While this explanation for the booms and busts is popular among economists, including Nobel-prize winner F.A. Hayek, few in the mainstream media are willing to question the Fed. Thankfully H.R. 1207, the Federal Reserve Transparency Act, has gathered a great deal of momentum with over 160 co-sponsors. This Act will make it possible to audit an institution that has created trillions of new dollars in the past few months. The American people have a right to know to whom this money was given. For all its talk of transparency the current administration has done nothing to tear the shroud off of the Fed. Given this incredible power given to a semi-private institution, one wonders why we don’t hear more about the Fed and its actions from the Congress. As Senator I would make sure that the Federal Reserve is held accountable and restore transparency to our monetary system. HEALTH CARE As a doctor I have had first-hand experience with the vast problems facing health care in America. Like other areas of the economy where the federal government wields its heavy hand, health care is over-regulated and in need of serious market reforms. As Senator, I would ensure that real free market principles are applied to fix this problem. (Read More) CAMPAIGN FINANCE REFORM Last year, over 15,000 individuals worked for organizations whose sole goal was to rip you off. No, not the mafia or Goldman Sachs, but another distinctly criminal class—Washington lobbyists. In 2008, corporations and unions spent over $3 billion to bribe officials who claim to work for you. (Read More) ABORTION Dr. Paul believes life begins at conception. He recognizes the most basic function of government is to protect life. It is unconscionable that government would facilitate the taking of innocent life. Dr. Paul opposes any federal funding for abortion. (Read More) ILLEGAL IMMIGRATION Dr. Paul does not support amnesty. Those who come here should respect our laws. Dr. Paul supports legal immigration and recognizes that the country has been enriched by those who seek the freedom to make a life for themselves. (Read More)
pgh.ndt Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > ASSet_MANagement Wrote: > -------------------------------------------------- > ----- > > ROn Pauls kid I am assuming? > > > > Kind of surprised Ron Paul even figured out > where > > to put it to make a kid. > > > I think he was an OB/GYN before politics… And? I’m still surprised.
This is what I find crazy: -Trillion dollar stimulus bills that don’t materially affect the unemployment rate, -Trillion dollar bailouts for incompetent Financial institutions, Continual boom-bust cycles perpetuated (in part) by the fed, -Ungodly fiscal debts (created by D’s and mainstream R’s alike). -Entitlement program ponzi schemes which will one day destroy us financially -pointless wars, -Troop surges in Afghanistan (Thanks, Barry) despite announced plans to leave in 12 months, You can thank Obama, Bush and the mainstream wing of both parties for all of the above. And you find Rand Paul crazy?
lord_ek0 Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > I saw the clips of him on GMA and his > clarification of his views was not articulated > well. I do think the accusations of him being a > racist are overblown. The letters to the editor > he wrote in 2002 were an esoteric critique of the > legitimate function of government. I am a > libertarian leaning conservative and am very > worried that such quixotic tendencies will hurt > more than help the libertarian cause. +1 Same boat
Look up his views on civil rights and discrimination in the workplace. And he and his dad wants to dergulate everything. Corporations have our best interest in heart, don’t they? Just look at the fine job BP did in the gulf. Not to mention crazy views on isolationalism, going back to the gold standard, ending the Federal reserve, etc. No thanks, I don’t want an anarchist in power.
joemontana Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > > ABORTION > Dr. Paul believes life begins at conception. > WHAT? How could ANY doctor believe this? Most (>50%) coceptions do not result in the fertilzed egg being implanted in the uterus. Even PRE-MED students know that. Can the anti-choice people, at least, get their biology right?
“I support term limits, just as long as they are one term longer than I am running for”. And you may be a doctor, but you are in no way qualified to comment on the economic feasibility of an industry. Too much regulation you say? What about doctors being licensed drug pushers, but only the drugs that pharm companies can make billions in profits for and then figuring out that they kill people? I think he was pretty legitimate in his history of not blowing smoke, like the birthers, GWB was a good president, Rushbo isnt psychotic, that fringe element. But he has to gather more votes to appease the party platform which i dont agree with.
I don’t think that politicians have our best interests at heart either. Sensible people with libertarian views don’t see deregulation as a solution but as a tradeoff implying that political excess is much more dangerous and distortive than corporate excess. Libertarians with the exception of Murray Rothbard and his disciples simply favor limited government. As for environmental issues such as the BP spill a reasonable libertarian response would be through torts which is what will happen. BP will have to compensate for their ecological damage by reimbursing businesses in industries such as tourism and fishing or lost revenue and lord knows how much in punitive damages to boot. By prohibiting private companies that must operate in our legal system from drilling offshore in international waters we simply invite state run oil operations from China to come in to drill in international waters. Imagine the diplomatic gridlock that would occur if Petrochina had a spill in international gulf waters vs. the relatively small legal gridlock that will occur with a private corporation such as BP.
Edit – This site is so slow. I feel like I am on dial up
Danlieb – I do NOT agree with his abortion stance but it is not a crucial issue for me. MP: I will take isolationism over a decade of pointless war. And when did Obamacrats become pro-war anyway? Re: Fed I don’t know about abolition but the Fed must be changed – years of easy credit have helped fuel the bubbles and inevitable busts. What have they done recently? Throw money out the door and help banks and prop trading shops mint cash while creating another stock market bubble? The Fed’s combo of power and incompetence must end. Read Bernanke’s remarks from 2005-2008 and tell me that clown should be one of the most powerful men in the world – and beholden to virtually no one. Regarding your VALID point about corporations and regulation: What has Obama done to end corporate malfeasance? The guy is beholden to banks, which isn’t surprising, given that employees from BB’s and HFT shops were his biggest financial supporters. In short, I agree that Rand is FAR from perfect but I consider his brand of politics the “lesser of 3 evils” at worst.
BO has been pretty critical of the banks and intends to sign legislation regarding regulatory reform proposed by Congress, which is the correct separation of powers given that they are the ones who write law and he enforces it. And havent you said that he is leading us on the road to socialism? Which is it? You cant have it both ways. GS was smart in “picking the winner” to contribute to, however BO has no obligation to protect the interests of those who contributed to him. His largest contributor was Calpers which represents CA public employees so is he beholden to them too?
I’m sorry, wasn’t the Democrats’ Senator Majority Leader current West Virginia Sen. Robert Byrd, a former KKK member who filibustered the civil rights bill of 1964? Could we please have some intellectual honesty in this conversation?
I love his BP stance…“Mistakes happen”. Yeah, how about utter failures in ethical and responsible behavior by the company and a series of practically unbelievable fvckups by all. Yup, deregulation is the key!
spierce Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > I love his BP stance…“Mistakes happen”. > > Yeah, how about utter failures in ethical and > responsible behavior by the company and a series > of practically unbelievable fvckups by all. > > Yup, deregulation is the key! LOL. If not for REGULATION, oil companies could drill for oil all over North America rather than having to drill offshore where the technology isn’t fully developed yet. I love how you liberals love to regulate/eliminate oil drilling for “environmental” reasons on land in North America, therefore forcing Americans to purchase oil from dictators and banana republics worldwide that have ZERO environmental regulations.