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You don’t need to start at low stakes tables if you can put together a bankroll. Remember, he wants to go pro and going pro means paying bills with winnings. How could he do that at 3/6?
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Good point, bankroll is not everything, but he still needs to learn how to play.
My point is that it takes time to get those skills and so realistically, you should not start too late if you also plan on becoming a CFA or the likes, which with a regular job, will just be unmanageable.
RobertUCLA, your comment about “everyone knowing how play” is flat out 100% completely wrong. If you feel that way, that simply means you’re not playing winning poker relative to Mr. Tom, Dick and Harry, which is a problem with your game, not the game itself. Playing live hold’em is absolutely ridiculously profitable for someone who knows how to play winning poker, AND by far the most prevalent. Wheres the value in learning how to play winning Razz when you can’t even find a game to play in?
Chuckist makes a good point, which I’ve alluded to in another thread. It takes a long time to consistently be able to pay the bills with poker winnings. Learning how to play winning poker is just one aspect of the game, you also must learn proper bankroll management, game selection, seat selection, how to deal with the emotional roller coasters etc etc.
Also, as much as poker is a skill that can be learned and generate profit for the ambitious, I wouldn’t recommend to anyone that they persue it as an actual way to make a living. Its just too damn stressful and the scum you’re surrounded by constantly just sucks the life right out of you.
This brings me to my final point, where did the OP say he was trying to go pro? His original question was asking about the difference between a little bit of day trading or playing poker. It sounds to me like he’s trying to make supplemental income, not be the next durrrrrrr (Tom Dwan).
this is bullshit.
every tom dick and harry does not know how to play the game.
they might know the basics and not to just jam on any 2 face cards but there are tons who won’t be able to lay down a hand. If you really know the game you’ll have an edge over them
whether you have the mental patience to use that edge is another issue. NLH is exploding all over asia-west/south and south east. apparently the pro’s have set up base in macau.
i agree with your point on PLO though.not H/L but PLO still has a ton of fish.the skill factor seems a bit reduced though and it becomes more a game of chance
Have you ever played for a living?
The fact that people are talking about going pro playing poker in AanalystForum proves my point. If you want to make a living become an expert in a game that not many people know how to play properly. I played for a living and now just use poker to supplement my income and would never sit at a table where I’m the worst at the table.
Just like in markets when they are inefficient that is where you make your money and it becomes a lot harder to beat when the market and information become efficient. When you have guys talking about Power System, NL in AnalystForum that means it’s time to move to a differnt game.
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im not sure i can relate to what you’re saying because when poker really took off there were a sizeable number of people who knew the game already.
basically ever since iv’e been playing for real money someone who didn’t 3-bet A-x on the button/CO was a fish and then i heard stories of the old party poker when everyone was making money and i was stunned.
if i get your point right your saying the field has become far tougher.while that might be the case the field is still definately beatable.
omaha is the next big thing for sure but NLH -> PLO seems like natural progression in my book.
Robert, your previous point makes sense but I still don’t agree. First of all, the fact that this was brought up on analyst forum may not reflect the wide dissemination of proper play but simply the fact that this forum contains many analytical thinkers and people who like to make money - poker is not leap from this predisposition. I completely agree with not sitting in a game as the worst player and I think we’re further in agreement as to where the profit comes from in Poker. However I strongly disagree that it’s difficult to find a game where you would have a statistical advantage assuming you know how to play correctly and adapt your strategy to the table.
Lastly, again, no one on here mentioned “going pro”. That was your comment. Original poster was inquiring for supplemental income (my interpretation). As far as I’m concerned, limit Holdem is by far the best poker variation for that purpose because of how ubiquitous the games are. Sure, theoretically he may have a greater edge by learning how to play Omaha HL, but what good is it when hell be spending most of his time on the rail just hanging out because he can’t find a game?