#nomorebros
you didn’t know this? women are raised to live in fear of the boogeyman. there’s a reason why pepperspray or rape whistle in the purse is so iconic.
^Before we lived out in nowhereville, my wife adamantly and absolutely refused to stop at the rest stops on the interstate, because “that’s where people get raped and mugged and beaten”.
Even in broad daylight with 50 people standing around outside walking their dogs and eating and playing with her kids, she was 100% convinced that she would be assaulted in the interstate rest stops.
Most women I know don’t live in constant fear. They are certainly aware of their surroundings though. For instance, whenever my wife goes out with her girlfriends they do things like take a picture of the cab’s # when one of them goes home, or call their husband when walking to their car alone. Same when dealing with Craiglist. Certain precautionary measures are just common sense.
I’m I pretty sure though, my wife nor anyone woman we hang out with worries about getting taken from the local coffee shop or mall during daylight hours.
Just be smart, not paranoid.
^ God, I’m so glad I don’t live in America. I know no one, literally no one, that lives in constant paranoia like that. Craigslist, sure, precautions are needed. But interstate rest stops? Taking pictures of cabby plates? No one I know carries a rape whistle or pepperspray. No one. That is so sad that people routinely live in such fear. No wonder they’re all hopped up on meds.
Really? Matt loves Canada was the first one that brought this up. I was just about to comment that I would not want to live in Canada.
Anyway, I don’t think women here live in constant fear of rapists. As mentioned above, it is just one concern of presumably many concerns. For instance, I am concerned when I go out that a car might hit me. So, I just make myself aware of the location of cars around me. Women are smaller and more likely to be victims of crime compared to men, so it is reasonable that they just make themselves more aware of crime. This does not mean that they are paralyzed by fear. My waifu walks around NY midtown at midnight, but hopefully, she avoids dark alleys or other boogiemen places.
I just regret that a productive conversation about bathrooms and tangential Nazis has devolved into a discussion about women’s safety.
^maybe zidhai had a point?
“All women”. “scared $hitless of being raped on a minute-by-minute basis when in public.” Quite the exaggerations. Why is it always economic liberal wing nuts making these strange comments. Those that are only social liberals seem more grounded. “Women have a fear of rape most often when at home alone or walking along a street, especially at dusk or after dark. In the book, The Female Fear: The Social Cost of Rape, authors and researchers Margaret T. Gordon and Stephanie Riger say that fully one-third of the women in their study reported worrying about rape once a month or more. These women said that the fear of rape is just something that lives in the back of their minds at all times, even when it’s not present in conscious thought. Another third of the participants claimed to never worry about rape; yet, they took precautions to guard against sexual assault.”
So we’re all on the same page? Don’t go to India.
I have posted in the Feedback Forum to report on your comment of hate and racism towards Indians.
okay maybe all women don’t fear rape specifically all the time. but most do fear for their safety for the bulk of the day.
I would fundamentally disagree with this still, at least where I live and the people I know. They may be fearful in places where it’s logical to be fearful (parking garage at night, shady bar, etc), but not the bulk of the day. Not going to work. Not at work. Not at the mall. Not at the grocery store. Not at a rest stop (other than some way sketchy remote isolated one).
in a bathroom at work. in a bathroom at the mall. in a bathroom at the grocery store. any confined space where a predator may lurk. so yes, most women are not actively fearing assualt while walking down the hall of a large mall or down a main street in daylight, but there are many small confined and dark spaces nearby these larger safer spaces. there are many more danger areas in public than there are safe areas in a woman’s mind. the fact that they are always actively avoiding these danger areas is a product of the fear of assualt. the reason i brought this up wrt to bathrooms is that bathrooms CAN BE one of women’s fear areas. it is confined space in public. if you put men in every women’s potential fear area, it will torment most women. washrooms should be safe. you should feel comfortable. you got there to pee and poo and deal with women specific issues.
Sharia law does seem like the solution to your problem. Men and women shouldn’t be alone, it will cause women great stress and anxiety. Got it.
It would be both nice and useful to know what actual women on this forum think about the stuff we have been discussing.
not in the public bathroom, no. do you want your wife going into a bathroom alone with some random guys in it? can you honestly tell me that you trust every male on the planet enough to FORCE your wife spend alone time with them in a confined space? you trust drug addicts? you trust pedophiles? you trust rapists? what?
if she’s taking a whiz at a hockey arena at intermission where there are 200 people in the washroom, okay it’s safe. but to mandate it such that all bathrooms, even the shadiest in the country, should allow penises in the women’s bathroom, is absurd.
geo, fear is not a black/white state of “no fear” and “completely losing your sh*t”. It’s all degrees, and probably never goes to zero. I don’t actively think of brain aneurisms all day, but there is still a 0.5% degree of concern at any given time. Men in shopping malls are maybe 1% concerned with theft. Women are maybe 4% concerned. That’s what he means by the constant state of fear. It does not always have to be extreme, paralyzing fear, like isildurr’s fear of talking to women.
Geo is comparing separate bathrooms to Sharia law. Seems like you won.
true. so he’s basically saying that the current washroom situation in the West is a result of the West’s adoption of sharia law.
Hold on. I’ll ask both of them.